Collusion Detection

Damnit Brando beat me to it lol

 

What people don't get is we are supposedly doing contracts that means 2-3 seasons that player could be locked up in theory, add in extensions one act of hiding someone could hold major advantage if they found the next top player and duped him coming in.

 

Way to catch Boany boys! Its disgusting that hes trying to put together a competitive team. How dare he try to get a couple steals in bidding. There should be a thread where if an owner comes across a good player in scouting, he must let everyone else in the league know so that everyone has an equal chance at getting said player.

I'm just glad that its easier to request trades this year, I know someone who isn't going to be playing for all these whiney owners this season.

 

This is definitely not a big deal at all.

If an Owner finds a guy he likes, there's nothing wrong with saying, "You're a good player and I want you on my team. Scouting with other teams will make you more expensive to us, so don't scout for others, if you want to be here on the cheap."

The above is a sound strategy and there is nothing wrong with that. If a player decides to not scout, that's his decision, it's not mandatory for a player to play in scouting games. The player is taking the chance that said Owner won't find a better player to fill his spot with before bidding starts. So if a player wants to put all of his eggs in one team's basket, that's his choice. There's nothing wrong with an Owner or a player trying to preserve their best interest, as long as it doesn't hurt others.

Having a player not scout, doesn't hurt others, because a player is well within his rights to not play scouting games, it's a calculated risk by the player. It's a calculated risk for the Owner as well. If an Owner tells someone not to scout and then pencils them in as a sure bidding target, that Owner is making a plan based on that player not scouting and staying cheap. Who's to say that said player doesn't have a change of heart and decides to play some scouting games and gets the attention of other Owners? Now the Owner who thinks said player is not scouting is making budget plans around a guy he thinks he'll get for a low price, who could end up going for several million.

The only time I would deem it appropriate for an Owner to be removed over something scouting related is if there was evidence that an Owner requested that a player intentionally disrupt other scouting games. If he asks someone to go sabotage other games, to make proper scouting tougher for other teams, then both the Owner is tampering with other Owners ability to see other talent. Said player should obviously also be removed from the league, if said player agreed to said Owners request.

TLDR: The decision to scout or not is up to the player. If an Owner asks him not to scout, that player has the freedom to decide whether or not he wants to limit his exposure and risk being overlooked and falling to the AHL or CHL. An Owner should not be punished for trying to secure the best talent he can for the cheapest price possible, without interfering with other teams.

 

boany is definately the only person doing this and should be banned and shunned from the community what the fuck boany

 

What is the point of running all these scouting games to find gems if I cant tell them not to scout when I find a gem? Thats the whole point of scouting. You think when someone finds buried treasure they leave it there for the next guy to come along and take it? Or let the government put it up for auction so someone who has more money can take what you found? You took my AGM away, im not going to stand for you attempting to take away my main source for elite 500k players.

 

Yes, it's unfair, but it's also something that will always exist.

 

Jesus, people will cry and moan about anything these days, eh? What's the big deal? As long as the players aren't under contract, it doesn't really matter. Ultimately its up to the player to decide whether or not they listen to said owner and not scout. How do you expect a league of over 1000 players to manage and make sure that every player scouts for every team he's asked to scout for? It's absurd.

 

well, this could turn into a he said she said thing, unless the owner has sent messages, if it was in a party chat with no recording, how can you tell the truth? as for mandatory scotuing, that is way too hard on owners/GM's, over 1000 people? fuck the season wouldn't start until the spring lol

 

i love it when you get super serious

 

Wasn't there like 2-3 people in s12 who you told not to scout then didn't pick up on any level?

 

Who cares, We just need a Murph patrol.

 

He can do what he wants, players will take notice.

 

Buried treasure? Are we pirates now?

Most leagues have combined scouting and combines were all owners are allowed to scout all players at their prime. The difference between us, and real sports, is all 99% of players would play for any team that is willing to give them a shot, not just who they want. Well I know comparing internet hockey league, to real leagues is kinda dumb, but it's sure better the Pirates and Governments. lol

 

I already posted my opinion in here but I can't grasp the fucking stupidity in this thread.
People who think this is cheating or tampering or just unfair, you should seriously consider just sticking to LG Fun Lobbies.

 

Boston didnt scout because the only spots we needed filling were going to be people coming up from the AHL and cooker/DTA, but I appreciate your effort to drag me through the mud.

Anthrax Dusted: lol its funny that sevv still thinks I didnt trade rape him, even though I totally did hahahaha.

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjcZpJ3YPk

 

This is 100% incorrect, and a very deceptive mentality.

Lets compare it to real life and how it IS tampering.

Teams have scouts all over the place looking at jr players, etc, etc., leagues all over the world. They keep their notes, low profile on who they are watching/wanting so others don't catch on. "Scout A" does not go up to a player and tell S/he to stop playing so "Scout B" wont stumble across them. The facts are that no scout would ask a player to "stop playing" for a month or so until draft time so no other scouts can see them.

There is nothing wrong with an owner telling a player he is very interested in him and have every intention of getting them on the team. This will reassure them that they shouldn't have to kill themselves scouting, but when you "agree" or make a pack then its dishonest.

Sure this is done and always will be at some point between friends and club mates but people but going out of your way is a bit foolish, risky (see here what can become of it) and a dent in an owners integrity/trust-ability.

As for the treasure, I don't think its worth anything until you do report it to a government. If you don't claim it and verify its from from a stolen source or something you can't spend it or cash it in. (proving your "treasure" isn't current day money/cash).