Sheltered or Unsheltered? Goalie Stats

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  1. Nex l26l

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    Sup peeps, this thread is for all you goalies out there. You guys don't get too much love in the forums so I thought I would go ahead and make some love to you - or give you some love, whichever doesn't get me banned.

    This thread is going to look at which goalies are insulated by their team's defense or which goalies get left out to dry like a wet blanket in the 1940s (get it? because people didn't have a washer and dryer back then) and everything in between. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE GOOD OR BAD IT JUST SHOWS WHICH GUYS HAVE IT EASIER AND SO ON. I hope you enjoy and please send me any suggestions about what kind of threads you'd like to see.

    (This is for Gs that have 10 or more games played - AVERAGES: 14.4 Shots Against/GP ~ .833 SV%)


    Goalies sheltered by great defense - Above Average SV% ~ Low Shots Against/GP

    :team315: @mochez18
    28 GP / 11.1 SA / 83.9 SV%

    :team516: @Name Is Ricky
    30 GP / 11.7 SA / 85.7 SV%

    :team315: @MattakaTiny2
    14 GP / 11.7 SA / 86.6 SV%

    :team362: @Tatar l21l
    24 GP / 12.2 SA / 85.0 SV%

    :team516: @ALPHA Crank
    13 GP / 12.5 SA / 84.0 SV%

    :team363: @TheCheetahlo 33
    26 GP / 13.2 SA / 88.7 SV%

    :team393: @iScampers
    12 GP / 13.7 SA / 87.8 SV%

    :team312: @PHJ314
    21 GP / 13.4 SA / 86.1 SV%

    :team625: @B I N K Y I77I
    22 GP / 13.4 SA / 84.7 SV%

    :team519: @TripAcez
    30 GP / 14.0 SA / 84.6 SV%

    :team517: @BlaNchet98
    27 GP / 13.9 SA / 85.3 SV%



    Goalies who aren't making a ton of saves - Below Average SV% ~ Low Shots Against/GP

    :team309: @NigelFromTinder
    20 GP / 11.9 SA / 83.1 SV%

    :team350: @Crabby Crawfish
    28 GP / 10.3 SA / 81.7 SV%

    :team314: @AG Mazy
    23 GP / 11.5 SA / 80.7 SV%

    :team307: @nranieri29
    22 GP / 12.3 SA / 79.7 SV%

    :team301: @The Thomahawk
    16 GP / 13.6 SA / 82.5 SV%



    Goalies that need some more help - Average SV% ~ Average Shots Against/GP

    :team302: @JTuuc
    27 GP / 13.1 SA / 83.3 SV%


    :team314: @Po_luhr
    18 GP / 13.4 SA / 83.9 SV%


    :team307: @x Leddy x
    20 GP / 13.6 SA / 83.4 SV%


    :team395: @l Scopes x l20l
    23 GP / 14.5 SA / 83.8 SV%


    :team303: @GIGI TOOTOO QC
    26 GP / 14.6 SA / 84.2 SV%


    :team352: @xProzer
    16 GP / 14.8 SA / 83.1 SV%

    :team515: @GoalieBro
    27 GP / 14.1 SA / 81.2 SV%

    :team300: @AG Tomza
    14 GP / 14.1 SA / 80.8 SV%


    Goalies whose teams don't supress shots - Below Average SV% ~ Above Average Shots Against/GP


    :team317: @Mastadon31
    19 GP / 14.4 SA / 80.6 SV%


    :team363: @DavosJB
    17 GP / 14.8 SA / 81.0 SV%


    :team390: @xx BROWN xx31
    21 GP / 14.8 SA / 80.6 SV%


    :team395: @a1dirtysouth04
    25 GP / 14.8 SA / 80.0 SV%


    :team362: @Glachs
    21 GP / 14.9 SA / 79.9 SV%


    :team301: @iEskimo-
    20 GP / 14.8 SA / 78.6 SV%


    :team515: @igetblunted247
    20 GP / 15.3 SA / 79.4 SV%

    :team317: @SithSoul
    20 GP / 15.2 SA / 82.2 SV%

    :team299: @I Eden l
    22 GP / 15.5 SA / 82.1 SV%

    :team519: @An AngryFawn
    13 GP / 15.5 SA / 83.2 SV%

    :team352: @Kessler82
    28 GP / 15.6 SA / 83.3 SV%

    :team617: @l Kodiak l
    20 GP / 16.6 SA / 81.3 SV%

    :team618: @Horizon_x_88
    17 GP / 16.8 SA / 82.1 SV%

    :team300: @IX 212 XI
    16 GP / 16.9 SA / 80.4 SV%

    :team303: @Payner
    19 GP / 17.0 SA / 80.2 SV%

    :team410: @Gonafets115
    22 GP / 17.5 SA / 80.5 SV%

    :team517: @l Soble x 30 l
    17 GP / 16.9 SA / 83.3 SV%


    Goalies that succeed despite their team's poor defense - Above Average SV% ~ Above Average Shots Against/GP

    :team312: @oHaiL
    19 GP / 15.9 SA / 83.8 SV%

    :team390: @CaneShades
    21 GP / 15.2 SA / 85.3 SV%

    :team625: @FriskyBeaverr
    19 GP / 15.3 SA / 86.3 SV%

    :team309: @keatsauce
    25 GP / 14.6 SA / 87.9 SV%

    :team299: @Binger
    23 GP / 14.7 SA / 88.2 SV%

    :team777: @Czap17
    28 GP / 14.6 SA / 89.3 SV%

    :team518: @JeFfBdR31
    25 GP / 17.8 SA / 84.3 SV%

    :team410: @TheGreech
    18 GP / 18.1 SA / 85.3 SV%


    This did take me a little more time than usual so I hope you guys like it! Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. l_Soble_l

    l_Soble_l S30/S31 Goalie for Owen Sound

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    Interesting post. I like seeing media do some things for us goalies. Keep it up!
     
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    I wish there was a way to get advanced stats for shot, like location of where they are taken. It wont ever happen but it would be so awesome to see.

    Like right now the game rewards taking low percent shots from the point and boards hoping for a rebound, so some teams take a lot of shots on net when they are in fact “bad shots”. I dont think it has a huge impact on saves% but it must impact the stat in some way.

    Anyway, good job with the stats.
     
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    Seeing as we are at the bottom of the standings every week, there must be something wrong when you claim we have great defense. Pretty sure we have th emost goals against in the league.

    Now that I'm looking at it, 13 shots against is average, but 14 shots against us below average.

    What?

    14.4 is above average shots against, but right above 14.8 is average.

    I dont get it.
     
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    One of your goalies in a category for great, or good, defense (which would have been a slightly better choice of words) doesn’t mean that your team in general has a good defense - only that the specific goalie has been playing games where the defense suppresses shots.

    Also, when factoring in the categories, I looked at both SV% and SA - some players may be in a tough spot where he could fit into two categories. I made changes in the ‘rough draft’ phase when it was typed so it is possible that I missed one or two.

    As for Scampers, specifically, I considered a difference of (1) when figuring out where to put players - his defense helps him by .7 SA less than average and he has one of the best SV% so I put him in the ‘sheltered’ part of the group. Again, that doesn’t mean that he is bad or good just giving the stats and letting people interpret them in their own way.
     
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    This is a good idea but terrible execution not gonna lie. All the shots I get come from either fright next to the net on a force and go in or are from the blue line and I can’t imagine how many other goalies are the same but with more goals against from the lack of defense and they seem worse. There’s no real way to do this write up with the way the stats work.
     
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    If it was interperatation than there wouldnt be catagories telling us how to look at things. Scampers being sheltered by good defense is a farce. My defense sucked.
     
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    Sounds like a you problem
     
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    Nex l26l I didn't finish high school

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    I wish there were ways to decipher the quality of shots and things like ‘Dangerous Chances SV%’ - I don’t think there will ever be a way to do that unless it’s by hand and that would be insane.
     
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    most goals against in the league here.
     
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    Love this article
     
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    Good article. GAA is weighted too heavily on LG, in my opinion. Its hard for goalies to have a good SV% and GAA if their defense isn't playing good, the other team only takes quality attempts, and they don't take a lot of shots.
     
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