Please Vote! S33 Eddie Shore Voting

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Who is your Eddie Shore winner?

Poll closed Aug 31, 2019.
  1. FrenchMoron

    11 vote(s)
    8.2%
  2. Dunks

    43 vote(s)
    32.1%
  3. JC Enterprise

    20 vote(s)
    14.9%
  4. Rev Hellcat

    23 vote(s)
    17.2%
  5. WarWeazle15

    37 vote(s)
    27.6%
  1. skyre5

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    Eddie Shore Award

    Awarded to the AHL's best defenseman.

    Criteria:
    1) Production in relation to peers. The Shore is not the "best offensive defenseman" award. Many other factors are at play here, and statistical production is only one part of this. It is, however, still an important part. Let it be noted that GAA for defensemen (the average goals allowed in games the defenseman played in throughout the season) is to be examined and evaluated on an equal footing with the defenseman's offensive production.
    2) Individual record. Individual record becomes a very important and telling statistic. To be considered for the Shore you should be posting at minimum a respectable record.
    3) Linemates. This is mainly to note that a player should not be significantly punished during consideration simply for playing with a talented line. However, players should not significantly benefit during consideration simply for playing on a below average team or with below average linemates.
    4) Strength of schedule. In a league where managers (and players, to a certain extent), are able to choose who they play against, it is important to consider strength of opposition when determining individual awards. The main things to examine here are record vs playoff teams as compared to record vs non-playoff teams, as well as statistical production vs playoff teams as compared to vs non-playoff teams (note that included in this is GAA. Analyze the average goals his team allows when a defenseman plays, and not simply the defenseman's offensive output in these games). Specifically, a player who plays a majority of his games against stronger teams and has a quality record in these games should be rewarded over players who mainly play against weaker teams.
    As far as individual stats are concerned, it is expected that players will get more points (and allow less goals) against weaker teams. Players should only be downgraded in this area if they acquire a significant and disproportionate amount of their points (or allow a significant and disproportionately low amount of goals) in games against non-playoff teams. In especially tight cases between players, also consider evaluating the individual lineups that players face throughout the season. Subjectively quantify teams' 1st/2nd/3rd lines, and examine how many of each the players have played against throughout the season, in combination with playoff/non playoff.

    Fringe Teams are Bridgeport and Milwaukee

    OEE- Own End Efficiency - Time in opponent TOA it takes for opponent to score a goal
    PPKE- Personal Penalty Kill Efficiency- Penalty kill % in your games


    FrenchMoron



    Total Record: 20-7-1 6G 38A 44P +34

    Playoff Teams Record: 10-5-1 20 Points

    Fringe Teams Record: 1-2-0 2 Points

    Non-Playoff Teams Record: 9-0-0 22 Points

    150 Hits
    30 PIM
    69 Takeaways
    307 Giveaways

    Scoring Factor: 39.3%
    1:57
    OEE
    77.6% PPKE
    4 Team Goals For / Game
    2.36 Team Goals For / Game


    Dunks


    Total Record: 21-4-3 3G 28A 31P +50

    Playoff Teams Record: 11-2-2 15 Points

    Fringe Teams Record: 2-0-0 1 Points

    Non-Playoff Teams Record: 8-2-1 15 Points

    214 Hits
    24 PIM
    91 Takeaways
    317 Giveaways

    Scoring Factor: 26.1%
    3:12
    OEE
    87.9% PPKE
    4.25 Team Goals For / Game
    1.96 Team Goals For / Game


    JC Enterprise



    Total Record: 21-4-3 7G 32A 39P +51

    Playoff Teams Record: 13-2-3 23 Points

    Fringe Teams Record: 0-1-0 1 Point

    Non-Playoff Teams Record: 8-1-0 15 Points

    105 Hits
    26 PIM
    84 Takeaways
    183 Giveaways

    Scoring Factor: 33.9%
    2:51
    OEE
    88.4% PPKE
    4.11 Team Goals For / Game
    1.86 Team Goals For / Game


    Rev Hellcat


    Total Record: 22-4-2 4G 23A 27P +27

    Playoff Teams Record: 8-3-1 7 Points

    Fringe Teams Record: 2-1-0 7 Points

    Non-Playoff Teams Record: 12-0-1 13 Points

    104 Hits
    18 PIM
    108 Takeaways
    239 Giveaways

    Scoring Factor: 28.4%
    3:27
    OEE
    82.8% PPKE
    3.39 Team Goals For / Game
    1.71 Team Goals For / Game


    WarWeazle15


    Total Record: 22-3-2 2G 25A 27P +36

    Playoff Teams Record: 10-3-1 13 Points

    Fringe Teams Record: 1-0-0 0 Points

    Non-Playoff Teams Record: 11-0-1 14 Points

    48
    Hits
    20 PIM
    56 Takeaways
    104 Giveaways

    Scoring Factor: 36.0%
    4:10
    OEE
    89.4% PPKE
    2.78 Team Goals For / Game
    1.15 Team Goals For / Game
     
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    2nd most points, highest +/-, a great giveaway/takeaway for such a skilled dman, and the best record vs playoff teams give me JC in a landslide.
     
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    @WarWeazle15 less offensive stats sure but defense isn't so much about offense. Just under a 2-1 ratio for GA/TA not to mention barely over 100 gives. That's insane. OEE & PK are higher by a wide margin and had less penalty minutes even if its just by 6. Plus that team goals against..

    Best defensemen should always be about the position while its important to chip in on offense which he did by having less points than his counter parts but still factoring in 36% of goals, his defensive numbers speak volumes. Plus out of the 5 he and rev are the only ones still in the dance. Gimme war in a "landslide"
     
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    he also benefits from an extremely defensive minded system. Not hard to pass the puck when your line mates barely exit your own zone.
     
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    @WarWeazle15 and it's an absolutely close call, but he's got the edge in the biggest categories for a dman and way better offensive stats that anyone is giving him credit for.

    If GAA counts as much as offensive production it's not even close.

    Blah blah blah, the system the system the system. These guys have all bought in and have played their asses off. You don't hold a 62 win team to 3 goals in 5 games because of just a system. You don't have the best team GA stat by 19 because you're just playing a system.

    Every single person on this team is pretty fucking good, and most are above average to elite. You do every single one of us a disservice by trying to say it's our system that is the only reason anyone is good.

    Weazle's 27 pts was a part of 13.5 % of their goals scored out of 200.

    JC 12.66% of 308 for 39...

    Dunks 11.5

    Weazle would've had 42 points if we scored at the same rate or if he played for Utica.

    He's the best dman, on the best defensive team in the league and ALSO scores at a better rate than anyone else on this list, while not turning the puck over nearly as much. That is the definition of this Award.

    You know what, I done convinced myself it's not even that close.

    Weazle for Shore. #War4Sho
     
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    But I had 4 linemates playing with their feet and goalie who couldn't make a save :sadegg:
     
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