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    This series will be part 1 of 1. I'm not fooling myself into saying I will continue to do analysis like this, or that there is more coming (see: the divisional write-ups prior to every season in which one or two divisions are written about).

    Objective

    Analyze the Giveaway and Takeaway stats in the LGAHL since the inception of tracking those stats. Present data and further analyze for any cause and effect.

    Motive

    The motives are personal gain, let's not get off on the wrong foot. I like to think of myself as a defensive center and I want these statistics to prove it.

    Process
    This was somewhat tedious. Edit the stats hyperlinks to retrieve old seasons datas. Edit the page code so the option to show '100' actually showed all datas. Copy, paste repeatedly, verify integrity, modify for use.

    Notes
    All data was filtered as follows:
    -each players' position was treated as a separate entity. i.e. Center Gimmix, Right Defence Gimmix, etc.
    -only active AHL players are used to formulate data (this means only the 500 or so players who have played in season 35 of the AHL.
    -the data only traces back to season 26 of the AHL, the inception of GA/TA tracking as mentioned.
    -a player must have played a minimum of 20 games (a season with some vacation)

    Results
    Wingers
    You guys treat the puck like a shitty spouse. You want it so you can score, but you don't caress it, you don't give it the tender loving it deserves, there are no impromptu massages. You don't know what you've got until it's gone boys.

    78,400 Giveaways
    17,540 Takeaways
    7,082 Games

    Want to know if you're an average winger? The average winger posts the following stat line:
    11.07 Giveaways/Game
    2.48 Takeaways/Game
    A -8.59 differential.

    Who are some of the best wingers in the game when it comes to holding onto that baby hanging over the CN Tower?
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    @Matty003 @Konecny x 11 @GRITTY 16 @Joe Nahh @Not A Fox Given @Firehalomaniac @ThatCurfewLife @Sportfreak114 @CleverFawn69854 @Drake0807

    Who are some of the best wingers in the game when it comes to snatching back that welfare cheque a homeless dude just tried to rob you of?
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    @HA G0T EMM @Clouds x92 @lxChowder71xl @Steeler l96l @Edenheart @xDemon12x @Mayers @im just a squid @Firehalomaniac @iTsKingJayDee

    ONE player snuck onto both lists, @Firehalomaniac. Who's mans is this?

    To confirm suspicions, let's see who leads in differentials.
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    There ya have it folks. Out of all of the most careless kinds of players in LG, these are the best of the worst.

    Centers
    Now let's talk about the players with the most demanding jobs in the game whom aren't goalies. Also I am in this category, sweet. Bunch of responsible fellows if you ask me.

    29,256 Giveaways
    8,665 Takeaways
    3,103 Games

    This is surprisingly not that impressive. Half-defence, half-forward, these boys ought to be getting the puck back for those hungry wingers.. what the hell are we doing? An average center posts the following:
    9.43 Giveaways/Game
    2.79 Takeaways/Game
    A -6.64 differential.

    Now which one of us responsible fellas hangs on to the biscuit like he's got a hot bowl of sausage gravy back at home?
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    @SupeRxGreeK @Reidsss @BROWNMANCAN @UNCL3 BUMP @Crosby9482 @jdj71 @BigD Auditor @Luke2513 @Beta Dreams @Mt Willard

    Now for the most important part. Am I one of the best at getting the puck back?
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    @x iLLMaTiC 7x11 @GimmixPwns @Boogie x6 @Link Daily @skyre5 @Val The Rat @tranqzz @RSK Young Chief @fuzzmiller23 @xLTD23x

    Yes, I am. This was all worth it. I can sleep now.

    Let's see those differentials for shits, I could care less now.
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    @SupeRxGreeK @UNCL3 BUMP @BROWNMANCAN @Reidsss @Crosby9482 @jdj71 @Luke2513 @BigD Auditor @Beta Dreams @tranqzz

    Ah screw it waste of my time I was just a few more down the list. Congrats to these responsible puppers above though. An interesting note that @jdj71 is keeping his prowess up through over 200 games!

    Defence
    I don't care much for these folks, they don't pass me the puck enough. But I'm this far along so let's get this done with.

    37,921 Giveaways
    17,811 Takeaways
    5,850 Games Played

    So these are the guys that take the rondelle back from those willy-nilly wingers, huh. An average defenceperson posts the following stat line:
    6.48 Giveaways/Game
    3.04 Takeaways/Game
    A -3.44 differential. Not shabby when you consider the fact that only 1 winger and 4 centers TOTAL are more efficient than the AVERAGE defenceman!

    These boys ought to be traded, get on the block chaps.
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    @FrenchMoron @Luusky @ScottLAX18 @l SaIty I @Kim Jong Ouch @TPForMyBungCole @REX9277 @Brisan x6 @Retnuh23 @LiyR

    Trade 'em for these jabronis.
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    @BlueDevs9 @BladezTML @BUFFALO STAR 23 @IlIBRINKS @LiyR @REX9277 @King Sergachev @Soxfan7744 @BreakIn3 2 1 @Grimm483

    I recognize you cannot trade a player for themselves. And thus in light of that, perhaps this will aid you lazy GMs.
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    @Samuxx @Westerhof x88x @SpdrMky46664116 @Tx Kn1gHtZ xT @Makaaarrrr @Slidezy @SunBunBudZ @Gnashty41 @GIJoe Destro @CanadianBacon8r

    Conclusions
    That just about does it. My findings are:
    -Wingers give up the puck
    -Defenceman take it back usually
    -Centers are the best

    Bonus Stats
    So, does any of this matter? Literally no. There is absolutely no correlation between Wins/Games Played and Giveaway/Takeaway ratios.
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    I fucking love stats so that was elite write up even tho it really means sweet fuck all.

    i do agree tho, @Yonnnnnnn x 13 should trade
     
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    This would be very useful if the game wasn't so broken and the only takeaways you can get are from sword fights. Clean interception doesnt even count as a Takeaway. Yet a rim around the board that gets caught is counted as a giveaway.

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    Good thing you mentioned this. I had intended to make a note about how stupid the Takeaways and Giveaways are counted!! Not only is it worthless, it's not even correct LOL
     
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    This is awesome dude, even though that stat is hit or miss it’s still a fun piece of content.
     
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    Nice in depth stats I respect that but just saying giveaways also show how many times a forward has the puck trying to find open guy's / defence same thing breaking out and or dump slap / giveaways due to no passing outlets
     
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    I love this. Takeaways and giveaways are an underrated stat in my opinion. I dont play with certain people, when I have a choice (club), based on that stat alone.
     
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