Don't pay Goalies they said...

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    Don't pay goalies they said...

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    It's not worth it they said...

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    Waste of money they said...

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    2.75mil for a goalie is way too much they said...

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    (Stats filtered by goalies with over 10GP)

    Moral of the story:
    Goalie is the most important position in hockey. Goalies can single-handedly determine the result of a game, especially in NHL 23. Having a bad skater on your team isn't nearly as harmful to the team as a bad goalie.

    People convince themselves that as long as the team plays well enough in front of a goalie, all the goalie will then have to do is line-sit and earn his 750k paycheck. Well, newsflash everyone: even the best teams are sometimes gonna allow breakaways, 2on1s, one-timers, and more. And what happens when your goalie isn't good enough to bail the team out in any of these high-quality chances? I'll tell you what happens.

    The culture in EA 6s is to never blame the goalie for anything, and rather have the skaters accept responsibility for allowing the high-quality chance. This is great and all, but believe it or not, the goalie is also able to make the save 95% of the time.

    Paying a good goalie an extra million or two is 100% justifiable when they can single-handedly bail you out and win games for you, and doing so in 2/3rds of your team's games.

    When you pay your goalie 750k and he can't make a single breakaway/2on1/one-timer save, how much are you really helping your team by spending a measly 1-2 million more on skaters, rather than on the most important player on your team?

    Let's stop with the notion that goalie is not an important position to spend money on, and realize that the game is played by 6 players, not just the 5 skaters.
     

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    Goalie contracts should definitely increase now with the increase in cap. The issue with this season was that nobody really knew how goalie would play. The beta, and even for awhile after release, goalies were getting shafted more often than ever… Paying them wasn’t logical.

    With the updates post-launch, goalies have proven that they can single-handedly win games again. This should be appropriately valued moving forward.
     
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    All your graphic shows is that you can pay goalies league min and get almost the same results (on worse teams) as a goalie making 2.75m.
     
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    And you can pay many forwards significantly less and still get the same or better results. In the top 10 point getters in the A, two of them make 2mil and one of them makes 750k. But obviously there will always be cheaper forwards who perform better than expensive ones, and the same thing goes for goalies.

    If you look at the contracts of the top 10 goalies in SV%, only 3 of them are making 750k. The rest make more. The second highest paid goalie in the league has the best stats across the board.

    But either way I only used him as an example to prove that paying your goalies is not instantly some sort of low IQ management decision.

    If a goalie is able to bail your team out on high-danger opportunities, it is far better to pay him 2.75mil than to settle for some average goalie and pay him 750k.

    In your case, Fetisxv is one of the better goalies in the A in my opinion and I’ve seen the saves he’s capable of making. I’m sure he’s bailed your team out on multiple occasions this season. Wouldn’t you rather pay him an extra million than let him go and replace him with some 750k goalie who wouldn’t make the same stops Fetisxv would?

    We’re talking about 1-2 million here. I don’t think it’s outrageous to pay a goalie that you’re confident is capable of bailing your team out in a game.
     
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    I'm agree with you cal but i've got 10 games more then him.. but he played very well i'm not gonna lie
     
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    Claw would’ve had the same stats or closer than you with 10 games more played too, I just have one of the best if not the best goalie duo so I’m giving them as much games as the other one. Also, your backup plays PSN so he’s not as much available as you.

    Nonetheless Corbz, you’ve been outstanding and totally worth every penny of your contract.
     
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    2mil cheaper, but certainly worth much more than 750k, wouldn’t you agree?
     
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    You want a pat on the back or something
     
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    Wouldn’t hurt
     
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    Goalie makes a post that were important rest of the league proceeds to shit on us. This is the most casual thing in LG lol
     
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    They are important you just can find them for cheap every season so you might as well spend the cap elsewhere. Corbz is one of the few at the AHL level that you could spend on if you wanted to. NHL level has some of those guys as well where it's worth spending on but AHL/CHL there's usually no point.
     
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    Moral of the story: Its a new game and it was a nightmare for managers to project performance based on previous games.
    Its a team sport and gameplay has change so much that some NHLers can now be considered CHLers lol
     
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    Why would you want to be a higher contract than necessary... We get it goalie is easier this year
     
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    Did you even read what I wrote? I’m not asking to have a higher contract, I’m recommending that managers give out contracts based on how good/valuable a player is, and not what position they play.
     
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    Its because most starting goalies are and have historically been about the same skill level. They have been roughly interchangeable and predicting who is going to be a top 5 goalie in bidding is pretty tough. Theres 3 lines of skaters of which the skill difference between the top players and the bottom players is pretty massive. If the cup winning teams were consistently spending more for the top goalies then people would catch on and their value would increase across the board. Its basically supply and demand of all positions weighed against each other. Its not some slight to people who play goalie or anything.
     
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    Completely understand and agree with what you’re saying. The fact that there's a lot less to playing goalie than skater causes a lot of goalies to play very similarly. But because of this similar play, managers and all skaters in general seem to mesh all these goalies together and consider them all to be same skill level. Most people in this game really know very little about playing goalie.

    Most people think that goals are never the goalie's fault, constantly telling them it was the defence's fault or that it was just EA screwing with them. In reality, every single breakaway, every one-timer, every cross-crease, and every 2on1 in this game is stoppable by the goalie if they play it right. Every snipe or bad bounce can be stopped if the goalie was in better position.

    My point is that the goalies who are able to make those stops are very often mixed in with the goalies who aren't because nobody is actually watching their own goalie during a game. Managers continue to think goalies are all the same, and would rather pay 750k for an average goalie than 2.75mil for a goalie who can consistently bail the team out in high-danger chances. Obviously if you can get the latter for 750k that would be ideal, but it's very much worth it to spend an extra 1-2 million on a goalie who you know can win you games, over a 750k goalie who can't.
     
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    wow man you are a internet hockey genius !
     
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