An AHL Management Tale

Discussion in 'Leaguegaming American Hockey League (LGAHL)' started by GimmixPwns, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. LG McDonald

    LG McDonald Director of Hockey Operations

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    I have considered it briefly today but i am currently heading to Vancouver for the game changers event. An official change wouldn't take place until the weekend
     
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    I submitted a draft of a proposed change to section 4.5.2, it is a bit more well-written, hopefully the board agrees.
     
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    xAlli09 Let's Go

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    If it's a vote who is representing the PA?
     
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    LG McDonald Director of Hockey Operations

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    Didn't you sign the NDF for the sneak preview of the LG movie...

    It has been working hence why we have what we have. But I won't ever say it's perfect. It's a living changing doc that won't ever be perfect and will continue to be updated as we go
     
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    I think McDonald has his head on mostly right about the situation. I'd like to see what you think about the rule change submission.

    p.s. was that sex scene a body double or are you just that jacked?
     
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    Rushpac First ever back-to-back PLB champion bitches!

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    The one thing I don't understand is why a gentleman's agreement for certain games between the GMs isn't good enough? I get the whole, we have to follow rules and rulings, but how is it that different from one GM giving a team an extra few minutes to get players into a lobby rather than taking the FF, which is allowed BY THE RULES?
     
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    Likely because someone cried about it in PM.
     
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    Whoever it was must be a real Crasshole.
     
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    Rushpac First ever back-to-back PLB champion bitches!

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    I know it puts us back full circle, but if a GM makes them play, then play; if the GM agrees to let previous results stand, then let them stand.

    As long as it is agreed by both parties, I can't see it being harmful
     
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    If the owners agree and I agree a PA vote won't be required.
    If it was it'd take it to the community for a third vote.

    I can't see this requiring a third vote
     
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    Not sure what submission you mean. The best thing I've seen was posted by Tats. Leave the rule as is but simply added that if the invalid roster doesn't affect the game result then we have no issue. Similar to the rule we have for in game issues(if it doesn't directly affect the play,
    It didn't happen)

    Nothing a little pre-workout and tears can't build
     
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    Not sure what submission you mean. The best thing I've seen was posted by Tats. Leave the rule as is but simply added that if the invalid roster doesn't affect the game result then we have no issue. Similar to the rule we have for in game issues(if it doesn't directly affect the play,
    It didn't happen)

    Nothing a little pre-workout and tears can't build
     
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    JayyDubski LGCHL Director

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    @MCDONALD l19l I know that the ruling is that all wins by the Gulls must be replayed. However, if the losing team accepts the loss, why can't it just stand?

    Just an honest question since I didn't play them, so this doesn't affect me. I'm just standing with the GM's that accepted the loss and are willing to give San Diego their well-earned win (especially since they've traded some the players that have played in those games).
     
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    Boz E Coyote The Worst

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    All we have to do is have the teams that the gulls are replaying against, take a 1-0 forfeit in the rematch and the gulls still get their win.
     
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    Yeah, that still takes lots of their time to organize their players to "play" them for forfeits anyways.
     
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    Your understanding of the rules seems a bit foggy. When a player is on IR they still count towards the teams salary cap and roster limit. Hence why we have a procedure for making a temporary calls up. That actually makes the most sense because if we had it so the temporary call up counted then that replacement player would have to be the same cap hit and position.

    The rule is extremely clear in regards to this situation. It currently states that if you have an invalid roster and win a game, that game will be replayed.

    After understanding that much your opinion of the rule or how it is enforced doesn't matter anymore. 18 players is one over the limit anyway you look at it. Therefore no matter how much you want to insult staff or called this rule stupid it won't change the fact their roster was one over the limit thereby leading the BOG to requesting a the games be replayed.

    And yes if the games are not replayed they will simply be overturned. Once again not something you need to agree with but something in the rules.

    What you also failed to see was the player was sent down on Sunday then went on IR Monday... So there was time to correct the roster before the week began. I hardly think it's a mind numbing process to click one button to send someone down as well.

    I see your points and we are currently looking an amendment to further correct this issue moving forward. That also shows the systems we when in place work. As a community of 2500 I can't expect everyone to read the rules and pick out possible issues until they actually occur. That is why we have an appeal system as well as an amendment system.

    As far as I am concerned this situation outcome was as good as it could be. The Gull managers were professional discussing this issue(expect to trying to have the game stand) and the input of the majority of the community has helped us shed some light on a rule issue we need to change.

    You are simply benefitting from being the "Monday AM Quarterback". It is very easy to sit back and cast stones from your position.
     
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    That is a fair debate but the game would have to be rescheduled and then like Boz said the original losing team would have to take a loss.

    The rules says it has to be replayed and doesn't say you can make a side deal to have it remain the same.

    The discussion that will take place this weekend will be in regards to an amendment and if that amendment will be retro active based on the appeal.
     
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    Rushpac First ever back-to-back PLB champion bitches!

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    It's tough to completely put in on the BOGs and staff though because there are just too many, and I'll call them what they are, a$$holes that watch situations like these and then try to exploit them for their own gain later.

    If you give one team, even if they deserve it, an inch, some troll out there will try to take a mile
     
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    I have an honest and quick question. How come the team who sent the player down never put them on IR instead?

    Not trying to start anything here, but just curious is all.
     
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    If you get the chance....not sure if you will....Punch rammer in the nuts for me...then stand over him as hes wincing in pain and say "this is how it feels playing your game!"

    Thanks in advance!
     
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