How Utica was forfeited out of the playoffs...

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  1. eZDangles

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    agreed that you obviously didn't read the rules if you think it says "no one except a goalie who hasn't left the net can play 3 games by 6" because it does not say that.

    It only specifies minimums for each roster player (1/4, 2/6), with 3 being the max for the week.
     
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    If the league was aware of the loophole, they should have communicated that ruling to the league at that time. They did not.
     
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    ECUs were used every time it was required. AHL Subsitutions were also used a couple of times.

    Your statement "No one except a goalie who hasn't left the net can play 3 games by game 6. Again it's in the rules and they clearly weren't read." is completely false. I have dissected the rules to make them more easily understood. I suggest you read my first post again.
     
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    How many games a week were players allowed to play? How many were a goalie allowed to play? Add the playoff scheduling rules (1in4 2in6) on top of that and you have your answer.

    Everything I said is correct and in the rules. You obviously didn't read it because what I copied and pasted clearly states that if a player is going to miss his 1 game in 4 or his 2nd game is 6 then an ECU must be used. Not a Substituion. If a sub was used it was illegal and the game would be overturned. Again stated clearly in the rules.

    Honestly how hard is it to read these things?
     
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    Maybe you should try reading what I posted. It clearly states if a player is going to miss his required games and can't be rescheduled to properly to get his 1 in 4 or 2 in 6 then an ECU is required. Not a Substituion. It is in the rules and you did a terrible "dissection".
     
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    @VileBooey clicked your name to confirm based on age if you were still at a pre-school/elementary reading level but it doesn't show. anyways, you are completely missing the entire argument of this thread from the very first post. EVERY PLAYER IS GETTING THEIR MINIMUM 1/4 and 2/6 GAMES VIA ECU OR OTHERWISE. your ECU/SUBSTITUTION post is 100% irrelevant.

    i'll do the math for you as well because you're obviously moving pretty slow here. by game 6 with 9 roster forwards and 6 roster D, there are exactly enough for 2 games to be played AS A SKATER - fine. for goalie, there are 6 games and only 4 games needed for 2/6. that leaves 2 free games at goalie position up for grabs. SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS A PLAYER CAN'T PLAY 3 GAMES BY GAME 6. with no position lock, this TECHNICALLY allows for a player to play their 3rd in net by taking 1 of 2 extra free games from a goalie thereby not affecting any roster players minimums.

    as @m_sibs posted, your comment "No one except a goalie who hasn't left the net can play 3 games by game 6. Again it's in the rules and they clearly weren't read." is not an actual rule. YOU clearly didn't read the rules, and YOU clearly didn't read this post from the beginning.
     
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    Lol at JLM's text below his name! :). Go Pen....FLYERS!!!
     
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    There was never any violation of the ECU or AHL Substitution rules. The league never made that argument, you are the only person who thinks that is the issue.
    There were some cases where I had to use an ECU, and I did. There were other cases where I was able to use an AHL Substitution and I did.
    Neither of those things have anything to do with why Utica was given a forfeit loss.
     
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    What happened to your team is specifically listed in the playoff rules as an example of A RULE VIOLATION. YOU DO NOT JUST THROW IT AWAY BECAUSE ITS NOT IN THE SECTION YOU WANT IT TO BE IN.

    Article 2.4
    A player or manager receiving a third degree violation will lose his game eligibility. Since a player can be scheduled for a MAX three games a series(two in the first six, and then game 7), depending on how many games a player has played will determine what game they are not eligible for.
     
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    Lol illy, can we close this topic already, can't change the rules now and it might not even be changed
     
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    UTICA UTICA UTICA
     
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    I sent this to Hadji. Not sure if it will be listened to or not.

    I think adding these two sentences to further clarify the playoff rules would be a great idea.

    Additions to section 1.4
    A skater can be scheduled for a MAX three games a series(two in the first six, and then game 7)
    A goalie can be scheduled for a MAX five games a series (three in the first four, once in games 5 or 6, and then game 7)

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    Sibs, you're done. We brought up the same exact thing earlier on the same day. But we inquired about it first. So if they made an exception for you, they'd have to go get Doc ad the Delorian, go zooming past the clock tower and let us play the Checkers again.

    I do see the point you're trying to make. But it also clearly defines a MAX of 2 in 6 a few lines downs.

    You have no real arguments and as many others, your season is over because you broke the rules.
     
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    It literally doesn't get any easier for staff. Sibs, you are listed as a defence men, meaning you fall under the player scheduling limitations regardless of where you play. You played three games in the first six games resulting in your third game which was a win to be overturned to a forfeit. Ineligible player in the rule book outlines that clearly.

    It is a shitty way to lose a series but the violation of the rules is 100%. Accept the punishment and move on.
     
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