Please Vote! LGHL Ownership Dillema

An Idea; $$ Deposits for management


I know that the league is free - and that is what attracts the vast majority of us.. but there isn't any real consistency in the consequences that each own/manager feels. They buy out their ban or not. And that's that for them. Meanwhile the rest of the team implodes and the other players are the ones who end up not having fun or wanting to get on when they know their going to just keep losing.

If players had the risk of losing real money, this may deter the shenanigans, and force them to at least try and field a competitive team... you know "Manage"...

 

If you think i am going to pay to baby sit 16 other people u are buggin... maybe if u flip that incentive and owners who make playoffs get a % of buy out money

 

Burnsy couldn't have said it any better. These kinds of things are the reason why guys like me (decent players that know the league and are active but have never managed before) dont apply for ownership.

 

That sounds like condoning bad owners. Keep it real. Keep it the same length. Make owners earn it.

 

What about NO free contracts at all?

If you take management you assume your last salary with automatic increases like if you were resigning. (Maybe)

Player A owner was 5 mil last season
Player B owner was 2 mil last season

Player B will have an extra 3 mil of bidding $$$$ to use. Or whatever the difference is after you bring in a GM. Whom you also pay for.

This way if you are Connor McDavid, you get paid Connor McDavid money no matter what your role is on the team. The team captain isn’t free in real life. No need to make it free here. All a free contract does is saves guys from being paid what they are actually Worth. How does that make sense? It doesn’t.

It gives those 3rd line kinda guys the opportunity to manage a team without being a burden to the team. 500k-2mil guys can produce a lot of good managers.

The only real downside would be that it is more attractive to manage sooner in your career so you can keep your cap hit down for a few seasons. But it’s rare that someone (there are exceptions of course) manages for like 10 seasons straight to start their LG career.

This is the only way I see there being parity until we have 32 great owners with 1st line skill. Which won’t happen.

TLDR

It allows borderline NHL/AHL guys to run teams and still have a chance to win. Would more often than not make it so each team actually only has 1 first line 2nd line 3rd line. Right now the top teams always basically have 2 top lines. Doesn’t give middle of the road managers much of a chance.

Or maybe Some of us just need to GET GOOD.

 

bro we literally have yeti taking an nhl team this season...it can't get worse

 

Damn

 

Manage in the AHL or CHL if you are worried about top players managing.
That is there only incentive to own

 

That is not the point. The point is we have a lack of managers. We talk about getting stuck on bad teams and wanting out. This is a plausible idea. It does make sense. We aren’t gonna have even 20 teams this season that compete with good teams.

What do we want? Even competition or stacked teams?

ESHL is for stacking. LGHL is supposed to be a Sim league.

 

Well, In a sim league there are better owners and GMs than others.

 

A deposit is returnable money, there is no profit in a deposit. It is purely to incentivize managers to not screw off... only seemed prudent to explain based on the response.

 

My take on the shortened season is a bit unique because I usually make it pretty deep into playoffs but a 9 week regular season is absolutely exhausting. Add on 4 weeks of playoffs and you're talking about 13 weeks, 39 in a year. Tack on preseason you're at 42 weeks of LG in a year. That gives us 10 weeks (two of those being Christmas break) of "down time" per iteration of NHL but even then if you're a manager it's not downtime because you're scouting, doing bidding, drafting, trading etc etc.

I was done with the regular season around week 5 this season and I was ready for playoffs to start. Weeks 5-8 felt like a chore and then week 9 was a tune-up for playoffs. The Christmas break was wonderful. It made me wanna play NHL again and I missed LG because I had two weeks where I didn't have to think about it. I came back ready to play and have some fun again. FUN is the keyword there.

LG is a free league, ran by volunteers. No one is paid to be here except for Tris. When it ceases to be fun it becomes a burden that you committed to and are banned and charged money for quitting. My last three seasons have been 12+ week seasons and I'm burnt out. The ONLY reason I'm managing this season again is because I have Vinny, Conaldo, Peanut and Smitterr returning and because I have a title to defend. The grind isn't worth it for those who don't win it because the season is just TOO long. Bottom line.

 

I voted fire shorty cause everyone one I seen don’t like him

 

What Dunks said. At one point, I don't really care about how realistic it is...You know how you have the option to play 20 minute periods rather than 5 minute periods in NHL? Nobody does 20 minute periods. Just like we don't have to replicate the CHL EXACTLY and play 82 games. I'm sure there is a way to make a 5 week season work playoff wise, even if it doesn't replicate the CHL and the divisional match ups etc. I'm sure if you cut out 27 games you could proportionally cut out both divisional and non-divisional games equally...so it would just be LESS GAMES in a season which is exactly what I and I'm sure others want.

Regarding the CHL playoff thing...the realistic stuff man you are caught up in too much. Remove one week of playoffs and yes, LESS TEAMS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. With a shorter season and playoffs harder to make, everyone will be competitive for the entire duration, players and managers.

Fuck I can't think of another thing that would change LG for the better like this would.
PROS:
1) Shorter seasons with more competitive playoff picture (for chl) = less forfeits (b/c less burnouts), less bans, etc

2) More owners would signup to own because it's less of a task because of the shorter season. WOW that sounds like a problem we have RIGHT NOW

3) Players will be more willing to play for shit teams because it's a small season...Would you rather stay on a shit team for 5 weeks or 9 weeks?

CONS:
1) We stray a little further from replicating realism in the NHL, AHL, and CHL.


LG isn't the NHL, AHL, CHL just like NHL 20 isn't the actual NHL. Back to the 20 minute period thing, there's a reason periods are shorter; it's so players don't get burnt out by one game. You gotta stop fixating on being as real and replicated as possible. There are some things where putting your own spin on it makes it more fun for the community.

I'm truly baffled this isn't being seriously considered. It would fucking solve so many problems

 

Roster reset and paid AGM need to happen.

 

@LG McDonald

Just a few reads https://imgur.com/a/WFkLe2q

This is the type of shit owners deal with and why people do not want to manage.

When I asked you earlier to go over some things on how we can make the league better you told me stop being selfish and help the league and when i declined you told me not to let the door hit me on the way out.

I have plenty more dealings with staff I can bring up but Im not really in the mood to dig deeper. It has been difficult to communicate with you at times and as an owner it seems like most discussions will turn into arguements and then we get shit for it.

As far as shorty goes we know bogs and owners who have stepped down directly because of him. If you go through and read some of my dealings with him and the way he responds(if i am lucky) why would I want to invest countless hours into something when I know that every step of the way will be contested with somebody who is supposed to help. Discuss issues with somebody but not get ignored or made fun of.

I honestly used to enjoy shorty as a member of staff but over the seasons he has become more arrogant. Giving + / - and emojis to managers for insulting eachother. Chirping and trolling people more than he helps. Telling me Ac requests needs to come from players but suspending dan when he was digging for a punishment. There is a long list of issues that I have had brought up to me during mgmt and I will not expose that as they were brought to me in secrecy as somebody managers trust with information. This is just a tid bit of my dealings with shorty over the last 2 seasons.


P.s dont ban me and lets make LG great again!

 

I would 100% deposit money as an owner to solidify a spot and if you get banned or don’t finish season you don’t get your money back. It would be a great way to hold those accountable and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Then at end of season if owners stuck around and play it out. they can get their money back or if they would like to return they can just keep that money in deposit for next season and they don’t have to give anything else etc.

 

Don’t fire shorty

 

you are right. And we want the best players owning. But that isn’t the case right now. At least you said something useful tho instead of just Get Good’ing it.

And the benefit to owning also is that you get to pick who you play with. It shouldn’t be a free salary. That’s not realistic at all.