Please Vote! LGHL Ownership Dillema

2 seasons per game copy, same length. It will extend the off seasons to give more time to pick owners and implement new rules. Might be able to work the schedule so we don’t have to take 2 weeks off in between playoffs:

 

@LG McDonald

if we are intent on keeping the 82 games, is it plausible to increase games per week to 12 so each line would then play 4 games/week? This would then reduce the regular season to 7 weeks. 3-3-3-3 schedule with minimum avail being 2 nights/week. Downfall here would be a little more time/effort required for line scheduling but nets a shorter season.

Also, the no free contracts idea actually sounds intriguing, but maybe something to try in the CHL first and may only ever work there. Positives i see from this:

- Would eliminate free contract gm/agm's that actually have no interest in managing.
- Would encourage players to play in the most appropriate league.
- Encourage more manage applications in the upper leagues while creating more competitive balance the lower leagues.

 

Shorty isn't to blame, its the system that's in place. 99.9 percent of the community wouldn't take Shortys's job even if it was a paid position. There is a reason most NFL players hate Roger Goodell, He is the Judge, Jury, and executioner. There needs to be a checks and balance system put in place. When one guy is handing down the punishments, bans, suspensions, etc is can look bias. I will be the 1st one to admit I have had multiple issues with some of the rulings this past season. There needs to be a better system put in place.

 

How about give guys with 10 seasons of management experience a team.. just cause they haven't played in the N.. actually means nothing.. you have multiple guys who have tried to own for 5 or more seasons, only to be told no.. I've been around hockey since 1984.. and management on LG for 10:seasons. I think guys like me have shown we are capable and ready .. it's time to give us a chance..

 

I wouldn't be near .500 if I didn't stay around my first five seasons and try and help new owners , until I got my own team.. but I'll look into it for ya

 

Maybe incorporate a subjective pay scale for owners based on their history. Give people who may be great owners but only average skill more incentive to become a manager. Community may be missing out on a group of people who could be great managers because of the fact you need to be elite skill owner/gm usually to compete.

 

“Work your way up like most of us have had to do”

That doesn’t include you, right?

 

lol you already know what I’m talking about. You’re not even a .500 player in the AHL my guy. Plus you haven’t even made a playoff team in the AHL. Yikes. You also did some pretty sketchy things in one of your two full seasons in the CHL. I don’t think you have the right to talk about stats/records and working your way up.

As you were

 

While I agree with some of what you said, without getting into anything public I'm just going to leave it as there's a stark difference in how things have been handled since Winston stepped down that has for me at least made me completely unwilling to take any management role.

Also the Goodell analogy, he works for the owners and his job is to take the brunt of the negative PR that would otherwise be directed at them. It doesn't necessarily make what you said incorrect, but it's basically the exact opposite of what's going on here.

 

NO FREE CONTRACTS!!!!!

It’s the only way

 

Incentives (possibly cash) for winners isn't a bad idea! All they get today is a cup emblem? That is nothing to play 3 seasons on a duster of a game. This is kind of playing off what RGD said. What if we fundraise like ESHL in some way and incentivize the management for placement in the season. If not, whats the point of even playing a game you hate? Participation from good players is needed to keep the league afloat through this edition till 21! Nowadays people can get 6 of their buddies and go play ESHL with no headaches about babysitting, people showing up to games, or people complaining about a trade and quitting. Managers hate that stuff and I didn't even do it in N. I couldn't imagine being in N managements shoes season in and season out.

 

too many virgins will cheat if we put money on the line

 

Have management contracts based on previous bidding cost. It doesn't have to be 10 mil because that defeats the purpose and would stop good players from managing. There has to be some way to even the playing field when a goalie wants to own vs a top fwd. Even if an owner with previous expensive contracts were given a 5ish mil owner discount it would still allow lesser skilled players to have a shot at competing.

A good owner/gm literally gives a team a 15 mil cap advantage. Same teams same owners is not a coincidence

Also stop blaming the site/Bogs for enforcing league policy, y'all are a bunch of trolls

 

In theory the points made here are pretty good. The reality is that regardless of the length of the season, you’re gonna have people complaining. Whether it be about getting stuck on a bad team or not getting to play with ‘friends’ etc.
What attracted me to LG in the first place was the SIM aspect. The stat tracking, the full seasons, the playoffs, the career progression, etc.
From what I know about burnout, it’s rarely a result of performing the actual job/activity. The burnout comes from things associated with the job (the external factors). Its the ‘toxic’ people in the team chats or the chat box saying stuff they wouldn’t say in real life. The nagging from players either asking to be moved or to play with specific people. The Divas. The EA bullshit etc. The season length isn’t going to fix that.
When you look at an actual job, you have vacation for a reason. To prevent burnout. They offer workshops on it. Take a season off. Anyone that I’ve talked to that has taken a season off has always came back looking to play—feeling refreshed.
If you shorten the season, all of those factors are still gonna be there the next season.
A lot of people get on NHL to have fun and be competitive. Not to pull up discord and get slapped in the face by multiple pissing contests.

The SIM aspect is what separates LG from other online leagues, I don’t think that should change.
What HAS changed are the players (in general). Too thin skinned at times, too entitled, too selfish. I don’t see those things going away. We see just how much of a ‘players league’ this is. No rule changes are going to eliminate player attitude.

 

A goalie duo make the perfect management in a system that everyone has a cap hit. They can be in every game.
Guys switching positions would screw with it tho.

 

I posted my response to this same thread on the PSN side:

Can't say I really understand the point of this post.

If anybody decides to be an owner bc if "free plat" or whatever bribe then they're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Fact of the matter is, people don't want to own because babysitting the players in this community is a daunting job. A job for free nonetheless. People who want to step up for ownership get criticized because of their lack of experience or their level of talent which then makes them recant their application.

Speaking off of personal experience because I was an owner for four seasons, and about to return, it absolutely blows. People don't show up, they bitch about their line mates, they cry because the team isn't doing that great, they throw a tantrum because they can't jerk off to their own stats on a website. BUT, for some reason I'm coming back because it's a personal hobby of mine that makes NHL fun for me. But then again I'm nuts.


TL;DR : community blows thus the lack of ownership applications