MASS's Player Ratings (Week 1, AHL)

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    Hello everyone, welcome back the competitive season of online hockey. As we all know another season means another season of stat crunching. As some may have remembered during the mid parts of the S8 summer season I developed a rating system for players based on position that took in account all stats weighted differently. The plan for this season is to give weekly updates of the top players at each position based on my ratings. None of my ratings have any opinion based decisions. These are purely based on the stats the LG site provides.

    Weight% For Forwards
    Goals=63
    Assists=21
    +/-=6
    Penalty Minutes=-10
    Hits=3
    Takeaways=6
    Giveaways=-3
    Blocked Shots=1

    Weight% For Defensemen
    Goals=10
    Assists=28
    +/-=19
    Penalty Minutes=-10
    Hits=4
    Takeaways=34
    Giveaways=-16
    Blocked Shots=5

    Weight% For Goalies (*NEW*)(Subject to Change)
    Save%=50*, Changed from 80
    Wins=25*, Changed from 10
    Shutouts=10
    GAA=-20*, Chnaged from -10
    Saves*=15, Added

    The Goalie rating system is completely new and I didn't get a good chance to use good data to develop it so expect multiple tweaks and changes as the goalie stats are collected each week.

    TOP PLAYERS AFTER WEEK 1

    CENTER

    1. @Johnkenney01 (73.14)
    2. @Degraves5 (65.91)
    3. @oriolerules44 (64.02)

    LEFT WING
    1. @xDeAdLy_xDaNgLeS (78.76)
    2. @LG McDonald (75.32)
    3. @Kuchersnipe_86 (59.35)

    RIGHT WING
    1. @shepard-88- (74.03)
    2. @Pelley_ (65.48)
    3. @Nick Saville (63.16)

    LEFT DEFENSE
    1. @Tronthedon23 (60.98)
    2. @xOneTimer (55.53)
    3. @Royalkc85 (53.79)

    RIGHT DEFENSE
    1. @ultimateGamer940 (58.34)
    2. @B-raded (47.72)
    3. @killer_habs25 (47.62)

    GOALIE
    1. @QUicK_ScOpE_14 (85.68) *Score Changed After Update*
    2. @Asura (80.93) *New Rank 2 After Update*
    3. @xMelom (79.79) *New Rank 3 After Update*

    *Note: Because of how the logarithm works ratings are comparable for specific positions only and can't be cross compared. (Ex. LD 60 rating does not necessarily equal RD 60 rating.)*

    As usual if you'd like to see the ratings for yourself, or see where you stacked up on my list you can follow the link below to see everyone who played week 1 of the PSN LGAHL.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xys3ImP9WW6ok0bZ4ei-NhArIGjyPzIzcCmXyKupXVI/edit?usp=sharing

    UPDATES FROM SUMMER
    -
    Fixed an issue where skater records were displaying and being converted into dates
    -Added Goalie Rating Tab
    -Added Rating Accuracy Value for all positions
    -For Skaters this is calculated by games played divided by 29. This is based on the max number of games a player played in S8
    -For Goalies this is calculated by games played divided by 54*. This is subject to change if a goalie passes 54 games played.


    Thanks for reading and if you have any feedback on the rating system be sure to drop it in the comments below.
     
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    Love it. I've actually used your ideas to develop another stat entirely along with a few other stat formulas I made to come up with essentially one super stat. Kind of like WAR in baseball. Keep up the good work Mass.
     
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    I wish I could get on this list with 3 goalie games played
     
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    that goalie rating is trash af how does a goalie who played 3 games vrs me who play 5 had more wins a little less save% buy face close to double the shots beats me then a goalie with worse stats beats me to mkay
     
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    I see that, working on a revision. I agree that you should be ranked higher. Like I said, its going to take a bit of tweaking to get the goalie rankings in decent shape.
     
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    Yea that’s what I’m saying I played 6 games with a 87.4 save percentage and nothing snubbing a spot from true starting goalies
     
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    UPDATE FOR GOALIES:
    -Added in total saves as a factor
    -Added in number of wins divided by the max amount of games played by any player as a factor. This should make those playing more games rated far better than those playing less if the stats are similar.
    -Adjusted the logarithm scalars to still add to 100 if best in every category

    Let me know what the goalies think and see if the ratings seem more accurate now
     
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    Much better @xMelom deserved it
     
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    make more sense that way unless the backup goalie has a unreal 3 games it should be hard for them to beat starters
     
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    Congrats Melom
     
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    Totally agree! Thanks for the feedback. Doing my best to make the most fair and accurate rating system possible.
     
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    Hello, thanks for doing stuff like this Mass. You are awesome. It's going to be a great season for the goalies if EA leaves us alone in future updates.
     
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    Thank you! And I agree, I like playing goalie more than defense on this one haha
     
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    +/- might be a little high for defense. I might be a little biased but you know its hard to get those pluses when your team doesnt score.
     
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    I miss my mass
     
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    I like your formulas for G. I was looking at it this morning and couldn't agree more with those good job
     
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    Yeah, it was hard to find a happy balance for that. I'm still looking to revise it as more stats get put in. I understand what you are saying though. My team last season was all defense so if we won it was by 1 and my plus minus was never more than 3 and less than -3 during the whole season.
     
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    I miss you too ;) and yeah I made a quick fix that a couple others mentioned and it looks pretty solid. As more stats get put in each week I'll get to fine tune it hopefully if needed.
     
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    Very nice work! I feel like it would be beneficial to add weighting to the stats by incorporating the opposition players grading and teammates grading at the time (game) the statistics occurs. This would dynamically effect the value of each stat incorporated into the equation.
     
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    I totally agree and I've been working on a way to do that effectively but haven't had much luck. The issue is that everything is set up so when I copy and paste the stats over it calculates everything instantly. In order to incorporate opposing stats I would have to search every player in the league individually and manually make the calculations. I'm looking into a way to incorporate a team stat ranking and then those would have a very small weight on individual ranks meaning someone who is 5-1 on a team that is 5-4 would be ranked higher than someone who is 5-1 on a team that is 8-1.
     
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