NHL: Advanced Stats Discussion

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    I honestly feel like generating interest in things at the NHL level can be one of the most difficult things to do in leagues. While there is generally a outcry for media when other leagues are getting the focus it can feel like the support for the people doing it is less. I have decided to attempt to bring advanced stats (the base of the system [MENTION=7406]F5 Penguin[/MENTION] and I have been working on) to all three levels. What I'm looking for is a few people who are interested in dedicating some time in grabbing the raw data from each week of the NHL. You can either post here or PM me directly to start working on this, I would be looking for 3-4 people to grab the stats from the NHL.

    An Example of the breakdown from the Flyers:

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 600"]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Player/Stat
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]OEE
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]TOD
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]Goal Support
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]Goal %
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]Assist %
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]Scoring %
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Handzagod[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.38[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]49.93[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.14[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]0.00[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]33.33[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]33.33[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Magilla72[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.28[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]63.80[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.88[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]6.67[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]21.43[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]26.67[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Sevv09[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.54[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]71.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.11[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]5.26[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]33.33[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]36.84[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Kroeger25[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.95[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]39.00[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.20[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]9.09[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]60.00[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]63.64[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]l Kaihatsu l[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.31[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]53.23[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.43[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]0.00[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]40.00[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]40.00[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]LikeaHardPuzzle[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.66[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]36.55[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.88[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.23[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]36.67[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]38.71[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    OEE: The average time played in your own end playing active defense before the other team scores.
    TOD: Time played on defense total
    Goal Support: The average amount of goals scored by the offense in your games
    Goal %: The amount of goals the defensemen scores in his games
    Assist %: The percentage of assists the defender calculates into (his goals are removed)
    Scoring %: The percentage of scoring the defender actively contributes.
     
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    10 thanks no offer to help out...

    I'm already doing the Metro, because it's my division. Other divisions need someone to step up, also doing this for the AHL.
     
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    Since I'm about halfway done with the metro here is a small preview:

    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 700"]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Player
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]OEE
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]TOD
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GS
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]G%
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]A%
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]Scoring factor
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"] [MENTION=6544]Foote Eh[/MENTION]
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.76
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]33.35
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]4.17
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]12.00
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]28.00
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]40.00%
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"] [MENTION=4526]Serpe x 13[/MENTION]
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.98
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]59.52
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.88
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]0.00
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]20.00
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]20.00%
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"] [MENTION=6664]HANDZAGOD[/MENTION]
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.30
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]52.97
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.86
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]5.00
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]36.84
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]40.00%
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"] [MENTION=7465]True Complexity[/MENTION]
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.45
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]61.13
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.89
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.86
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]32.35
    [/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]34.29%
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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    Ask [MENTION=6596]EricE30[/MENTION] about the level of participation of the NHL in this. They are superstar, just take take take! :)
     
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    Get out of our nhl subforum you ahl scrub.
     
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    Me and Foote in the same stats.. I knew I was better.
     
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    we used to keep track of individual players face offs won/lost/%

    this is something we could bring back. I know that sometimes the C goes to the box and its a winger taking the draws, but the total face-off count for the game would just be applied to the C for each team. The info is already available in the box score, so it would just be a simple data pull.

    I know its not a huge deal but its still nice to see.
     
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    A preview of what I'm working on for goalies:



    [TABLE="class: grid, width: 700"]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"]Stat[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"] OEE[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GAA W[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GSW[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GAA L[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GSL[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GAA D[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GSD[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]GWO[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]ATS[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]S/G[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]BSP[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="align: center"] PHJ314[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]2.69[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.40[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]4.2[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.38[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.18[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1.98[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.32[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.45[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"] 0.57[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]13.25[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3.30%[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    GSW: No not gunshot wounds... Goal Support in wins
    GSL: Goal Support in Losses
    GSD: Goal Support Differential
    GWO: Average amount of goals needed to win out (A 2.00 would mean you lose by a goal every game)*
    ATS: Average time between shots on net.
    BSP: % of shots that come from the breakaway

    There is a few more things I would love to add in here but this is the base, things to come are Penalty Kill % while in net, Breakaway/Penalty shot % tracking. If EA tracked odd mans we could do alot of great things with defenders and goalies.


    * Seriously considering subtracting the flat 2.00 and running it as a +#.## to make it cleaner.
     
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    People have been asking about this, so bump
     
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    ban him, he's bumping old threads
     
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    guess adding game winning goals as a stat would be a good addition?
     
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    Agree, but only for one goal games if possible IMO. Having the 3rd goal in an 8-2 win isn't that significant.
     
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    I feel adding Corsi to a players/team profile could be beneficial in seeing which players are greater with puck possession on the strength of schedule of others. Despite the fact this game does not calculate Shots missed and blocked shots in a lobby game, some minor modifications could be made to the formula.
     
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    Come NHL 16 and auto-attached Xbox One Screen shot support, we could add this stat and maybe a few others
     
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    considering there are a lot of 1 goal games during the season your idea sounds good.
     
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