Media S10 CHL All-Stars

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    Takeaways can be included in how you look at defensemen, but everybody knows the Takeaway stat line is very inaccurate. Someone with 8 picked passes may only get credit for 4 takeaways, or only 2, at the end of the day its only what EA counted as a Takeaway. It is not a good representation of how good a Defender is because its all over the place. PIMs are good to evaluate, as obviously someone in the box constantly isn't helping their team.

    There are 3 categories that should be used to select Defensemen all of which are under Advanced Player Stats.

    OEE (Own End Efficiency)- Average time it takes for the opposing team to score.

    SAF (Shots Against Frequency)- Average time it takes for the opposing team to get off one shot.

    GA (Goals Allowed)- How many goals have they allowed in a season (This is more of a tie breaker, as obviously if a Goalie is letting cheese in, nothing the Defense did wrong)

    There is also PPKE- (Personal Penalty Kill Efficiency) How often is the PK successful while a player is on the ice.

    These are going to separate who truly can defend and keep teams from shooting or scoring.
     
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    I just compared StickyFingers who was #1 WHL RD All-Star to other RDs in the WHL and yall missed some gems on decent teams IMO. Just to give you an example.

    StickyFingers: 13-5 (10-5 vs above .500 and 3-0 vs below .500)

    7 Goals 28 Assists +38 plus/minus, 18:00 PIM, 53 TA with a -140 GA/TA

    OEE: 2:24
    SAF: :23
    GA: 43
    PPKE: 83.9%

    BreakDanceMcgee: 11-6 (5-5 vs above .500 and 6-1 vs below .500)

    0 Goals 9 Assists +5 plus/minus, 6:00 PIM, 51 TA with a -27 GA/TA

    OEE: 3:02
    SAF: :29
    GA: 39
    PPKE: 82.1%

    You see for Defensive stats BreakDanceMcgee was the best RD in the WHL. Unfortunately for him, he is also on the 11th overall WHL team who is 3rd in their division. Even still Mcgee had 12:00 less PIM, right around the same TA with 113 LESS giveaways.

    So no the record won't blow you away, as the 5-5 above .500 does hurt, or the offensive stats, because Blazers have only scored 39 goals while Mcgee is on the ice, while BWK has scored 79 goals while Sticky is on the ice. And as a team BWK has scored 225 goals to the Blazers 153. So clearly the offensive edge would be in StickyFingers favor. This is not to say StickyFingers is not deserving of a WHL All-Star selection, but simply to point out that he was not the best Defensive Defensemen in the WHL for RD, and IMO BreakDanceMcgee absolutely 100% should have been an All-Star.
     
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    Sticky isn’t a defensive defenseman though he’s an offensive defenseman who leads the entire CHL in defenseman points. You can’t compare a defensive defenseman to a offensive defenseman, that’s almost like comparing Brent burns to T.J Brodie (real life comparisons).
     
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    I understand. But at the end of the day both play a position of Defense. So while contributing to an offense is great and should be rewarded in a way, defensive stats should ALWAYS supersede Offensive stats when making a decision about who is an All-Star LD or RD.
     
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    But that’s not the case in real life, and NHL is based off of real life, defensive stats don’t supersede offensive stats. I’m not saying defensive stats aren’t important though. Also the low TA/GV breakawaymcgee has might be because he doesn’t touch the puck often, have you ever considered that? There’s many variables that go into who gets chosen. However it’s very easy to have a 0 ta/gv without touching the puck often. I can tell you why sticky’s is so high, it’s because he quarterbacks almost every play. Either way, watch game film on both and you’ll be able to see for yourself.
     
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    Bud I never said Sticky shouldn't be an All-Star... I am simply saying if you are rewarding a guy for his offensive stats because they are impressive, then reward BreakAwayMcgee for being the best RD for his defensive stats. I was CHL last year, I had a terrible GA/TA similar to Sticky, because of being a "quarterback" as well and high point total for a LD, but I was also Top 2 in OEE and SAF for all of CHL, and averaged less than 2 goals a game. So I know both worlds, and both are important. So reward both types of Dmen.
     
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    Not one Blazer made the All-Star team, so its kind of silly that this guy has the best defensive stats for RDs in the WHL and was not selected, while being on a team who is a little above .500 and 3rd in their division. This was an opportunity to select a guy that isn't on a great team but that is putting up impressive defensive stats, and I am just showing you that it was missed, badly, especially when your Defense Criteria leans heavily on Defensive Stats.
     
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    thanks for the selection :) no goalie is good without a good team infront of him so i consider my selection a team one
     
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