Please Vote! Should players have to move up?

@Neil x 25

 

Divine Mitts

 

I personally think everyone should have to signup before NHL bidding, all late veterans that signup would be CHL TC and ineligible to be called up. I get that certain leagues work better for some peoples availability (myself included), but ultimately the end goal is to have the talent pool divided by skill level.

I think the only workaround we should allow for skipping NHL bidding is to commit to managing. People who really wish to play in the A, would then be more likely to take a management position in the A, which further strengthens the balance of the league down here.

The current system is flawed in design. Technically, all of the top talent in the N could just sign up late and then there'd be a shift in balance where the A was more skilled than the N, it doesn't make any sense.

 

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The n is fucking aids. Period. Good day

 

I think only prospects should be allowed to sign up late. Amateurs and veterans should be required to sign up prior to NHL bidding.

 

@meka DVA meka Why be a peasant in the NHL when I can stay down here and be a God

 

Players should be forced to move up why? Not everyone cares about playing in the N just to have a logo. If they wanna play CHL and AHL cause that's where they have fun let them. This league is free and having fun should be the main idea.

 

why do people care where others play? I dont understand

 

I sign up to play in the NHL every season. I’m as stunned as all of you are about why I’m still in the AHL.

 

not everyone has the time/effort to manage in LG. Again its a free league if someone wants to play AHL without being management why cant they?

 

Youre acting like the people who sign up late kill the balance of the league, yet maybe 5 guys sign up llate have NHL experience. i think if they wanna come down and be 9 million let them. Also, with the new rules about NHL owners not able to bid on AHL guys unless given permission will fix some of the balance problems with top line NHLers signing up for AHL. The AHL is still a developement league, theres tons of DPs every season who go off and move up and theres some who dont, just like real life. I think the culture in the NHL needs to be fixed before people like myself want to move up and try it out. Not fun when youre being counted out 10 minutes after accepting ur offer and guys retiring on you before bidding even starts lol.

 

Fun for whom?

If a player is only in a lower league because they refused to risk playing against people who average closer to their own skill level, I guess that could be fun if said player prefers games on easy mode. Doesn’t seem like it’d be as fun for the players who naturally belong in a lower league and would end up there anyway in a bidding system which more strongly promoted a competitive structure.

It’s misleading to characterize it as “being forced to move up.” A more honest phrasing would be “forced to risk playing amongst other players closer to your own perceived skill level.”

That said, I dodged ahl bidding my last time through because there was always at least one manager who mistakenly believed I am anything more than a #7 D. Sometimes you need the freedom to save people from themselves.

LG has to strike a balance between competitive structure and overall fun, but let’s call it what it is. If you’re dodging, it’s because you don’t think you’ll be able to hack it at that higher tier and win enough games to enjoy yourself.

 

I think this comes down to how McDonald and Tris want LG to look. You can either have a “# of players on site” option or a “quality of play” option. Pros and cons to each.

# of players Option: Current format where people can sign up after NHL bidding.

PRO: People can sign up for league that works better with their schedule and/or has more of their friends in it. More fun for those players.

CON: Can create an AHL that is almost as good as NHL. Also can ruin experience for many NHL players because only a handful of teams could have true NHL talent forcing others to play on bad teams.




Quality of Play Option: Any non-prospect who doesn’t sign up before NHL bidding is a CHL TC.

PRO: The best of best are truly in NHL aside for a few management exceptions. Leagues are more balanced overall


CON: You run risk of losing players who are forced to play in a league they may not wish to play in. This could cause LG signups to go down.

This is one of those discussions where I feel could truly go either way and it boils down to how Tris and McDonald want LG to be showcased

 

You're all missing the point. The guys who should be in the NHL that come to the AHL pay the price. Allowing a guy like @Redmile89 to manage in the A when he's a successful NHL owner and player is the issue. @GB521 last season had 10 wins. @Xx LoL xX 9 had one of his worst LG seasons in terms of wins. You pay the price with those contracts. I wouldn't say Colorado had any "NHLer" per say as Dunks and Vinny were probably their 2 guys with NHL experience both played up and saw a little success but nothing out of the ordinary. They won the cup. I wouldn't say they are THAT much better than AHLer. So what's the balance issue then?

There is none. The only issue is coming from the guys who are tired of losing in the NHL because they sign up for it, but would still lose in the A. You're just shit. Has nothing to do with when you sign up.

 

FrenchMoron mentions "people who come down from NHL to manage" as being a bigger problem.

Some ideas:

• Anyone who wants to be an NHL Owner or AHL GM applies ahead of bidding season.
• LG Staff select and assign NHL Owners and AHL GMs.
• NHL has no managerial responsibility concerning AHL, and AHL is not responsible for finding ECUs for NHL.
• Any AHL roster player is eligible to ECU for their NHL affiliate if they are not scheduled to play an AHL game at the same date/time. If NHL uses an ineligible player, the game is forfeited.
• NHL owners can only trade players drafted by them and on their entry level contract, or players picked up in NHL bidding.
• NHL bidding is given a couple extra slots to pick up players with the intent of assigning them to the AHL affiliate and future ECU use.
• AHL GMs can trade any players picked up in AHL bidding, or RA's. Drafted players on their ELC can be assigned to the AHL roster. AHL cannot trade drafted players on their ELC.

You get more players interested in managing AHL because NHL can't monkey fuck them as easily - the scope is small, and rules are clearly defined. AHL has full control over most of their roster.

More people may be interested in or focused on NHL management because they don't have to spend time worrying about AHL crap. They don't have to go find an AHL GM, deal with AHL drama, or get hit with a complaint because AHL management goofed up on something. (On the downside, the NHL GM and AGM may have to take a more active role helping the Owner, as AHL management won't be there to act as Jr Managers.)

Thanks for reading mac's best hits from his rehashed, past season management forum suggestion posts.