* New * Should we remove face-off king from the league?

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Should we remove face-off king from official league games?

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  1. Yes it should be removed from official league games

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  2. No let the players use what they want

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  1. LG McDonald

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    A lot of debate recently on the face-off king trait and how it affects game play

    After discussions with the game polar producer, face-off attributes only play a factor when both Centres go for the same draw. Therefore if both players for for a backhand stick lift, the one with the higher attribute wins. In situations where attributes are equal and both players attempt the same face-off it is a random outcome.

    Face-off King does make playing Center less enjoyable because it is one less trait a Center gets to use.

    My personal opinion is this trait shouldn’t even be in the game. That was something I stated from the beginning. It takes away the creativity that a Center has in an ecosystem where creativity is limited already. There isn’t any description that states the use of the face-off attribute in regard to success rates.

    The question I am posing to the league is; “do we want to remove the ability to use this attribute for official LG games?
     
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    I dont mind the attribute. It builds into the meta. It isn't one less trait they get to use, as if equipped they are looking to gain that advantage. I think you won't see it equipped as often as you may think but who knows. It still takes up a slot to use it so you are sacrificing in some other area.
     
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    How will this be enforced if it's voted out? What happens if someone uses it?
     
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    I mean if you are going to argue that because a center runs the face-off king trait they get an advantage at face-offs that's a really bad argument. The same could be said for my typical build. I use quick first step. Should we ban that too? It gives me an advantage at getting to a puck quicker over ever player who doesn't run quick first step. If a C wants to run face-off king they should be able to. They will still lose draws that they do the wrong move for. If both C's run the trait then its basically a wash (not 100% how the FO stat looks for all forward builds, Is it the same?) My point is that each trait gives an advantage and has a disadvantage. For FO-king only having 1 trait that truly affect your in game play (outside of FO's) should be considered a disadvantage.
     
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    Shoe brings up a good point about quick step. which def factors into how wings can get in for a tieup or jump a kick back.

    With that said is there any talk about banning D builds at fwd and vice versa?
     
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    Cant stay on topic for fucking 5 posts.

    Christ.
     
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    Why should we regulate the already limited creativity this game has to offer?
     
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    You’re playing with Fire if you ban a trait.


    In 2 months it’ll be “ban marathon man because you can sprint longer than those who dont”.
     
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    LET'S JUST BAN ALL THE TRAITS WHILE WE'RE AT IT. Lol, this is stupid. It's just like any other trait. Utilize whichever trait will give you an advantage. Also, timing is still important. If people are upset Faceoff King is being used, the should just get over it. They're just using another trait to gain an advantage.
     
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    ban the season
     
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    i planned on using Face-off king all season. only because i don't want to get higher skilled all the time. if it's removed. cool. if it stays it's meta and i feel like i have to use it. i vote we just keep it and if a center doesn't want to use it that's his own decision.
     
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    nah
     
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    Wouldn't mind seeing it banned. If it's not banned, anyone who doesn't use it is probably a moron so I doubt there will be many C's who don't use it. It is kind of a waste of a trait. It's not like other traits where it's the players choice based on their play style which traits they'd like to prioritize. Every F build has the exact same base faceoff ratings, and faceoff king increases it the exact same for every single F build.
     
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    The issue I have with Face-Off King is not that is being used, but the fact that I feel like I have to use it. Face-Off King limits creativity with center builds the same way restricting forward builds to forwards and defenseman builds would. Without face-off switches there is even less counter play and more straight up stat checks making Face-Off King pretty much mandatory. Banning face-off king allows for innovation with center builds that would not be possible with it being legal.
     
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    The whole point of having traits is to give an edge. If you don’t wanna use it then the C runs that risk. You see the opponents build before game time anyways so it’s easy to match the trait if they have it or not. If a C wants to run 2 separate traits other than face off king they will have advantages over the other C outside of the face off dot in other area of the game. Seems balanced to me.
     
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    is faceoff king a red perk? if so pls don't take it away or else all the C will just use the deflection perk.
     
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    It’s a blue perk
     
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    Was TWF banned on old gen cause it had a higher faceoff rating than the other builds?
     
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