* New * Should we remove face-off king from the league?

Discussion in 'Leaguegaming Hockey League (LGHL PSN)' started by LG McDonald, Oct 4, 2018.

?

Should we remove face-off king from official league games?

Poll closed Oct 11, 2018.
  1. Yes it should be removed from official league games

    103 vote(s)
    40.2%
  2. No let the players use what they want

    153 vote(s)
    59.8%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. LG McDonald

    LG McDonald Director of Hockey Operations

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    Messages:
    4,048
    Discord:
    LG McDonald#5572
    Trophy Points:
    3,271
    Ratings:
    +10,026 / 74 / -540
    A lot of debate recently on the face-off king trait and how it affects game play

    After discussions with the game polar producer, face-off attributes only play a factor when both Centres go for the same draw. Therefore if both players for for a backhand stick lift, the one with the higher attribute wins. In situations where attributes are equal and both players attempt the same face-off it is a random outcome.

    Face-off King does make playing Center less enjoyable because it is one less trait a Center gets to use.

    My personal opinion is this trait shouldn’t even be in the game. That was something I stated from the beginning. It takes away the creativity that a Center has in an ecosystem where creativity is limited already. There isn’t any description that states the use of the face-off attribute in regard to success rates.

    The question I am posing to the league is; “do we want to remove the ability to use this attribute for official LG games?
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Dislike Dislike x 4
    Offline
    LeagueGamingOfficial
  2. premierplayer

    premierplayer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2015
    Messages:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    191
    Location:
    usa
    Ratings:
    +286 / 194 / -140
    I dont mind the attribute. It builds into the meta. It isn't one less trait they get to use, as if equipped they are looking to gain that advantage. I think you won't see it equipped as often as you may think but who knows. It still takes up a slot to use it so you are sacrificing in some other area.
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Get Good Get Good x 2
    No Streaming Account
  3. Meestah Don

    Meestah Don shitter here

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2015
    Messages:
    380
    Discord:
    MeestahDon#8695
    Trophy Points:
    7,331
    Ratings:
    +542 / 51 / -29
    How will this be enforced if it's voted out? What happens if someone uses it?
     
    Offline
    meestahdon
  4. TheShoeMoney

    TheShoeMoney Confirmed Shitter

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2017
    Messages:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    91
    Location:
    Chicago
    Ratings:
    +65 / 19 / -15
    I mean if you are going to argue that because a center runs the face-off king trait they get an advantage at face-offs that's a really bad argument. The same could be said for my typical build. I use quick first step. Should we ban that too? It gives me an advantage at getting to a puck quicker over ever player who doesn't run quick first step. If a C wants to run face-off king they should be able to. They will still lose draws that they do the wrong move for. If both C's run the trait then its basically a wash (not 100% how the FO stat looks for all forward builds, Is it the same?) My point is that each trait gives an advantage and has a disadvantage. For FO-king only having 1 trait that truly affect your in game play (outside of FO's) should be considered a disadvantage.
     
    • Dumb Dumb x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    Offline
    TheShoeMoney
  5. premierplayer

    premierplayer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2015
    Messages:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    191
    Location:
    usa
    Ratings:
    +286 / 194 / -140
    Shoe brings up a good point about quick step. which def factors into how wings can get in for a tieup or jump a kick back.

    With that said is there any talk about banning D builds at fwd and vice versa?
     
    • Get Good Get Good x 1
    No Streaming Account
  6. meka DVA meka

    meka DVA meka J'aime seulement ma maman et mon lit desole

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2016
    Messages:
    1,311
    Trophy Points:
    4,191
    Location:
    NEW YORK
    Ratings:
    +3,075 / 86 / -171
    Stop
     
    • Like Like x 4
    Offline
    Nybarisny
  7. Spray_and_pray_

    Spray_and_pray_ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2017
    Messages:
    227
    Trophy Points:
    641
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +407 / 25 / -36
    Cant stay on topic for fucking 5 posts.

    Christ.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    Offline
    rossbs
  8. Flapjack8796

    Flapjack8796 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    240
    Discord:
    Flappy#0924
    Trophy Points:
    3,041
    Location:
    Washington DC
    Ratings:
    +654 / 8 / -17
    Why should we regulate the already limited creativity this game has to offer?
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Informative Informative x 1
    Offline
    Flapjack8796
  9. Primetimme

    Primetimme Last go.

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Messages:
    962
    Trophy Points:
    6,701
    Ratings:
    +3,127 / 39 / -124
    You’re playing with Fire if you ban a trait.


    In 2 months it’ll be “ban marathon man because you can sprint longer than those who dont”.
     
    • Like Like x 6
    • Winner Winner x 3
    Offline
    Primetimme1
  10. Ra-_Ra_-Rasputin

    Ra-_Ra_-Rasputin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    Philly
    Ratings:
    +254 / 50 / -144
    LET'S JUST BAN ALL THE TRAITS WHILE WE'RE AT IT. Lol, this is stupid. It's just like any other trait. Utilize whichever trait will give you an advantage. Also, timing is still important. If people are upset Faceoff King is being used, the should just get over it. They're just using another trait to gain an advantage.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Dumb Dumb x 1
    Offline
    scy_x_93
  11. NH4JP

    NH4JP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2015
    Messages:
    979
    Trophy Points:
    1,741
    Location:
    oo ha ha
    Ratings:
    +2,252 / 58 / -175
    ban the season
     
    • Winner Winner x 8
    • Funny Funny x 3
    Offline
    NH4JP
  12. Troubledworm

    Troubledworm Niagara IceDogs Owner

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2018
    Messages:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    541
    Location:
    Tarasenkos moms vageen
    Ratings:
    +13 / 1 / -1
    i planned on using Face-off king all season. only because i don't want to get higher skilled all the time. if it's removed. cool. if it stays it's meta and i feel like i have to use it. i vote we just keep it and if a center doesn't want to use it that's his own decision.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    Offline
    saauuccee
  13. JTresatti

    JTresatti Kobe

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2016
    Messages:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    5,091
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Ratings:
    +1,055 / 74 / -116
    nah
     
    Offline
    jtresatti
  14. I2I-Way-Hockey

    I2I-Way-Hockey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2016
    Messages:
    230
    Trophy Points:
    1,191
    Location:
    Florida
    Ratings:
    +687 / 39 / -39
    Wouldn't mind seeing it banned. If it's not banned, anyone who doesn't use it is probably a moron so I doubt there will be many C's who don't use it. It is kind of a waste of a trait. It's not like other traits where it's the players choice based on their play style which traits they'd like to prioritize. Every F build has the exact same base faceoff ratings, and faceoff king increases it the exact same for every single F build.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2018
    • Like Like x 1
    Offline
    2wayhockey
  15. Flapjack8796

    Flapjack8796 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    240
    Discord:
    Flappy#0924
    Trophy Points:
    3,041
    Location:
    Washington DC
    Ratings:
    +654 / 8 / -17
    The issue I have with Face-Off King is not that is being used, but the fact that I feel like I have to use it. Face-Off King limits creativity with center builds the same way restricting forward builds to forwards and defenseman builds would. Without face-off switches there is even less counter play and more straight up stat checks making Face-Off King pretty much mandatory. Banning face-off king allows for innovation with center builds that would not be possible with it being legal.
     
    • Like Like x 12
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    Offline
    Flapjack8796
  16. VincentVael

    VincentVael Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    91
    Location:
    Kitchener
    Ratings:
    +68 / 6 / -8
    The whole point of having traits is to give an edge. If you don’t wanna use it then the C runs that risk. You see the opponents build before game time anyways so it’s easy to match the trait if they have it or not. If a C wants to run 2 separate traits other than face off king they will have advantages over the other C outside of the face off dot in other area of the game. Seems balanced to me.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    No Streaming Account
  17. iCallsoWhat55

    iCallsoWhat55 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2016
    Messages:
    359
    Discord:
    icallsowhat55#1227
    Trophy Points:
    1,591
    Location:
    Poerazhel Village, Somalia
    Ratings:
    +441 / 37 / -66
    is faceoff king a red perk? if so pls don't take it away or else all the C will just use the deflection perk.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    Offline
    icallsowhat55
  18. JTresatti

    JTresatti Kobe

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2016
    Messages:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    5,091
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Ratings:
    +1,055 / 74 / -116
    It’s a blue perk
     
    Offline
    jtresatti
  19. SchroyDaddy

    SchroyDaddy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Messages:
    88
    Discord:
    schroyer69#8212
    Trophy Points:
    8,091
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ratings:
    +310 / 13 / -13
    Was TWF banned on old gen cause it had a higher faceoff rating than the other builds?
     
    • Like Like x 9
    Offline
    Schroyer69
  20. KMAC5

    KMAC5 Second coming of KMAC

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2016
    Messages:
    298
    Trophy Points:
    3,961
    Location:
    Sauga city
    Ratings:
    +637 / 96 / -219
    Can we ban EA from making patches
     
    • Winner Winner x 7
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    Offline
    kmcdonald_55
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.