West vs East; Skill vs Excuse

Discussion in 'Leaguegaming Hockey League (LGHL)' started by Devin Decibel, Jul 3, 2019.

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Whats your avg ping on the server you hate playing on?

  1. under 30

    5.3%
  2. 40

    8.3%
  3. 50

    10.1%
  4. 60

    11.0%
  5. 70

    12.7%
  6. 80+

    52.6%
  1. Devin Decibel

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    Hey gents,

    I keep hearing conflicting opinions regarding the correlation between the ping one player has on a regional server, and whether it warrants the excuse of why (for lack of a better term) they suck.

    This much we can likely agree on:
    1. LT's are easier to perform on a better connection
    2. Small changes in angle and contact for hitting/bumps seem more consistent
    3. Input delay/lag makes your guy feel slower and less responsive
    4. More penalties tend to result with your stick as you are "behind" the server (this point is debatable)

    I think LT's and maneuvering through the areas of the ice is about the only skill gap in this game, and yet I can't help but feel like it seems impossible to keep up when you have 70+ ping.

    Is it an excuse? is it night and day difference? The only true evidence is when teams get "west coasted" and lose -- but is that just a bitching mentality distracting you from playing your game?

    Take @Karmuh x 86 for example, who is very good, and will play the same regardless of east or west (70+ on west). I mention him just as an example of being successful regardless of perceived disadvantage, and maybe we all just need to hit practice mode?

    Some people have literally quit LG cause they were tired of the lag. I would be very interested if anyone wants to share their ping on each server. Maybe LG should create a new stat for adjustments to lag.
     
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  2. Karmuh x 86

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    When I said I play the same Devin I was saying like I don’t change my style because of the ping but it’s definitely more difficult :)
     
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    I find that I need to play a simpler game on 70+. The bumps and the extra time it takes to react makes it harder than it already is to really let your skill shine. I play PS4 without the bumps as well and I don't feel as hindered due to having more of a bubble around my player. If NHL20 is like this while Xbox keeps bumps, I'd highly recommend any west or high ping players to make the switch over.
     
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    There’s a huge disadvantage playing against west lines when my ping is 120 and theirs is 10-30. They even scum their way to getting host connection by changing the generated code every game. If they were actually any good at the game they should never lose which is why most people call them shitters.
     
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    I get 80-90 ping on west, defense isnt really any harder since you barely hit buttons, but making an impact w/ the puck is next to impossible because you have to plan your moves so far in advance, which can telegraph what you're doing to your opponent.
     
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    The main way to beat someone on better ping (east playing west or west playing east) is to simplify things.

    You have to basically do less, which is why we have seen a lot more lame game styles. Trap, turd, tip, repeat. It is easy to counter ping bc like Nuge said D is relatively easy, especially if the whole line buys in.

    If you're at a connection disadvantage

    1.) Don't hold onto the puck as long
    2.) Move well without the puck
    3.) Shoot the puck
    4.) Defense first
    5.) Forwards collapse in the zone and help the Dmen

    Pretty simply stuff, it's def an advantage but west guys have been playing at a disadvantage against east players forever and many of them can hang witj all east linemates or against opponents on east servers.

    The teams who are able to put an all central/west line together have that advantage on east guys but the east guys never seem to adjust their style and instead complain and usually lose which is why it is a very good strategy some owners have used over the years and many use on PSN

    *The new servers don't work for club challenge, if you club search you can get on the central server, north american west server but they aren't there for club challenge since they were added. Hopefully we see that for next yr as a nice in-between if there are a mix of East/Central/West players in games @LG McDonald @Nuge @JmOnEy2436 @WhoeverElseIsAGameChangerTheseDays
     
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    Ban west coast people.
     
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    I mean it deff isn't an excuse on east I have 12 ping on central 38 west 89. The majority of my games are played on 12 ping so when I get into a game where its 3x as slow on central or another game where in about 8x as delayed it is a significant difference. What players on west and central servers have going for them is that the majority of the games they play are on east where they have adjusted to the high ping and when they get to play on a lower ping it benefits them even more. Regardless it is what it is and I have seen many west lines lose plenty of games but they absolutely have an advantage off the rip
     
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    How pathetic is this game for us to actually have a discussion on this? Smh :facepalm:
     
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    On west I get put on 100-130 it’s aids I just can’t move period
     
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    I hate to be that guy and blame west coast, but I play on an average of 140 ping on west coast. It is not playable, so I can't "play my game".
     
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    For me my ping is: East-21, Central-32, West-100

    At east I feel comfortable, on Central I feel the delay but it's doable, and on West I'm just a turnover machine because I always feel like i'm a step behind the other team (which I am).

    Along with playing a more simple game like everyone else has mentioned, I use a different build. On east/central I have been using a Grinder. On West, I use a Dangler to avoid the dreaded combo of delayed connection and a slow player build. This way, my guy can be fast in some regard despite my movements being literally 5 times slower than usual.
     
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    East: 8-12
    Central: 30-35
    West: Anywhere between 80-150...

    As a goalie, that makes a huge difference...
     
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    I play on an average 80 ping every game because I’m from the west, I don’t find a huge difference I’ve become used to it, ping gets in people’s heads
     
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    Lets all just play on a Euro server then everyone can be delayed!!! Problem solved.
     
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    Nah that'll just give the east coast guys an 80 ping advantage on us.

    Brazilian servers. Scratch that, Moon servers.
     
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    22-24 west
    65-70 central
    78-82 east

    Even going from east to central there's a very noticeable difference. Still find it funny when east players lose their minds if they have to play on "central" servers. (which is just slightly west of the east servers)
     
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