100%'r test and tune.

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  1. Renegadebiker41

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    Morning gentlemen, first cup of coffee
    here so bear with me. Alright I took a
    little time and went into "test and tune"
    for this so no other cars on track and
    no drafting, when you see these times
    you will understand why I asked for
    fellow 100%'rs to race with. And also
    feel free to add your times.

    I used my hometown track which is
    Atlanta Motor Speedway. No setup
    tweaking whatsoever and a minimum
    of 5 laps each.

    Times are :

    Default Rookie setup - 31.44
    Default Veteran setup - 31.32
    Default Vet setup WITH 85% on
    grille tape - 31.10

    It should also be noted that I did
    this with my own car, then I did it
    with 24 Jeff Gordon and then 48
    Jimmy's car....so there was no
    difference between mine or one
    that came with, the points carry
    over.

    And here is the reason why I ask
    for fellow 100'rs to race with:

    Talledega - Top speed in both
    rookie and vet setup's was 186
    With 90% tape and ON the
    backstretch a whopping 190mph
    was the max and I barely broke
    the 190 mark (lol)

    190 max on backstretch at dega
    is not going to do anything online.
    In fact I run anywhere from a
    -6.0 to -10.0 split and even worse
    the longer it goes, on a short track
    I will plain get lapped.

    Hope the info helps anybody, and
    hey like I asked , if you have a 100
    prct car then if we raced it would
    come down to only our setup and
    our skill would it not? And this is
    my first nascar game on a console
    and you pro's correct me if im wrong
    but you can have the best setup
    in the world your not going to make
    up an average of being outran by
    10mph....alot of people tell me to
    start over do this do that...well I
    would like to have a little faith EA
    will release a patch, and if not oh
    well. Anyway, I would be interested
    to know your fastest default setup
    Atlanta time in just a car with the
    horsepower max and nothing else
    if you have one, Good day all.
     
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  2. theDrummerJ99

    theDrummerJ99 Formerly Jeffrey99 @ LG & Xbox

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    At Atlanta, with a car that is 100 engine and 75 aero(rest default), my fatest lap was a 28.6 during a race. I was using the vetern setup with just a few changes (can't remember exactly what that was). I average 28.8-30.0, on pro driving model with only assists anti-lock brakes, traction control and stability control on low.

    As for my cars, I have Superspeedway and Speedway on 100 engine and 75 aero. Road courses and short tracks on only 100 engine.
     
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    It's the setups. I have maxed out performance points for every car; 100's across the board. I was hitting 202 on the backstretch at Talladega last night in a 12-player race, and still I could not keep up with the lead draft. After 2 laps or so I would be coming off of turn 2 while the leaders were going into turn 4. I mean hell, guys were qualifying with low 48's and someone even said some guy ran a 47.2. My maxed-out superspeedway car with veteran setup and 75% grille tape (and a perfect lap) ran a 50.3x for qualifying.... so it's pretty clear to me based on that that setup is WAY more important than performance points online.
     
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    theDrummerJ99 Formerly Jeffrey99 @ LG & Xbox

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    So you just maxed out the engine? I find it hard to believe that setups would make that much difference at a track like Talladega or Daytona. Now I could see a huge difference between controller racers and wheel racers, as the smoother you are at those tracks, the faster you'll go. I don't know. I'd take any track in that game anyday over Talladega and Daytona anyway.
     
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  5. Renegadebiker41

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    Thank you for that info then Xpress, if your
    hitting 202 in a 100% car and it is indeed
    the setup then I will spend some more time
    tweaking and tuning everything I can for it.
    This tells me that it would not be a waste
    of time to work on the setup if indeed the
    points is not the reason your 12mph faster
    then me. It is hard to believe that the
    setup alone can make up 12mph wow..
    But I will give it all a try , good day.
     
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    Oh... see, I didn't know about the 'engine only pp upgrade' glitch for superspeedways, so I have everything maxed out. I rarely race on those tracks anyway by choice though, so I guess I was ignorant about it.

    I'm with you, I can't stand racing at Daytona or Talladega, reminds me of racing around the superspeedway in Forza 2. You basically take the challenging driving aspect of NASCAR (braking, line through the corner, when to get back on the throttle on corner exit) and throw it out the window, and with this freedom from the pesky thing known as braking and throttle control, people end up racing the track like it's Bristol or something (not to mention the draft is way too powerful and you end up with enormous closing speed when closing up on someone, which again leads to even more wrecks).

    I think Michigan and California, boring as they are to watch on TV, are the best tracks to race at online because there's just so much room to race, and it's actually a fairly challenging track to get consistently good times on.
     
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    I agree. I only have engine maxed out on mine. I used veteran setup and all I did was move the sliders for speed and loose two spots and grip one spot and had a decent qualifying, enough for middle of the pack anyway. I'm not going to go in and tweak all these little things. I don't have the time and for that track if you stay in the draft I feel you have a chance. Of course last night I was doing a lot of giving and not a lot of taking. Daytona is okay but with 14 people it's a little much. People just had trouble holding a line as far as I could tell. We had a good race going at the end, about 11:30 central, until we all got dropped.

    I would much rather do a Richmond or a few other different tracks. But it seems everyone just does those two.
     
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    I am a fan of the smaller tracks like bristol darlington lowers, not a real fan of the superspeedways
     
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    if you are qualifying or in a no damage race put the grill tape to 100%. i can also hit 202 on deg backstretch with my PP at 100 engine only. i heard that putting any aero PP on slows you down.

    the main setup tweaks as i understand (at least at dega and daytona) asre grille tape, lowering the wedge, lowering the gears differential sligthtly ans lowring the fourth gear to .88. there are slight tweaks after that in sawy and track bars and tire pressures, but they dont make THAT big of a difference.

    if you want setup's check my EA locker for some examples.
     
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    i just played those two last night becasue i think they are easiest tracks, i definitely want to use some variety as well.
     
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    Then I say if we run those two track to run with damage on. Kinda stupid and unrealistic to run with 100% grill tape.
     
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    Duhhhh

    Well in my defense it is my first nascar
    game, anyway, I just took a break from
    some more test and tune. Now im starting
    to wonder if there is any glitch at all.

    So I go to dega' again, keep in mind
    im talking test and tune mode, there
    are no other cars or drafting help.

    1 simple gameplay setting...felt like
    an idiot, someone here mentioned
    this before and id like to give that
    person the credit but cant remember
    who mentioned it.

    All I did was change from Pro mode
    and vet difficulty to pro mode and
    "legend" I think its called.....here
    are results with NO drafting or set
    up tweaks.

    Dega' went from previous 190 to
    196 ...now i can see setup and
    drafting making up the speed
    difference.

    Then the best of all , went to michigan
    put it back on pro-vet , added some
    tape but only to 65percent. And took
    off any braking help.

    With NO draft....coming out of turn
    4 was at 206mph , by the time I got
    to turn 1 I hit 212 mph..

    wow didnt realize the "braking help"
    that was default on "vet" difficulty
    made that much of difference. Now
    as I said I wonder if all these people
    talking about a glich on xbox and ea
    forums just simply dont know to turn
    that off, hell I dont even know if it is
    proper nascar ettitquite to share info
    but I am looking at this place as a
    team not a league, maybe my mistake
    but anyway.....now im ready to do
    some online.....can take some pics
    of the 206 and 212 if needed lol.
    Thanks whomever said that on here.
    Racing right now if anybody is around.
     
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