An AHL Management Tale

@xSEBBYx13x you are my new favourite person.

As a new GM these intricacies are things I am just learning. I took the board's word that I was wrong and then fought the fight that @Ozzyng2 just put forth very well.

What Ozzy said about punishing the players is THE ONLY reason I didn't just up and leave when the ruling came down. My guys deserve the respect back that they give me and I wouldn't quit on them. Does the site or the board deserve it? Hell no (sorry).

 

Going to have to chime in here Brodie. It is in no teams best interest outside of the Gulls to play these as you have just stated they can be given a win for not playing the game. You just gave people a huge loop hole here, I know you didn't mean to do this. The fact you have opposing AHL management of OTHER teams willing to waive the right to a replay and staff is ignoring it and threatening punishment if they want to let them stand is a huge mistake. This isn't site staff giving the Gulls an out or allowing them to break the rules, they generally are understanding of these guys actually stepping up into a shitty situation and knowing this didn't effect an outcome.

Management stood together and they got shit on here basically, not by you but others in your staff. Simple change would be allow teams to request a replay and not the league forcing players/managers into games outside what they signed up for or be punished for it which is the current situation.

 

So then with the obvious outcry here by the league why not hold an immediate amendment vote?

Well within the rules as stated allows a vote to take place, allowing both the teams who wish to let the games stand remain appealing to that side and still allowing Crass to get his rematches for his losses? Seems like a good compromise.

Also you could call for a letter of Understanding in the rules at this point allowing a vote to take place, because again this is within the rules and another compromise putting this on the ownership for ratification.



As stated by you as well the player entered IR on Monday not Sunday correct?

Which at max would be 4 games of invalid rosters according to the information?

I saw a link to it stating here that IR player's don't take up a roster spot.


There is always options to "do the right thing"

 

To force 2 teams to play a game that neither team wants to play is 100% what's best for this league.




Also scheduling the exact 12 players for a reschedule game where they all have the same availability should be fun

 

This will most likely be ignored

 

It's okay I'm use to it just like when I offered to transition into the PA earlier this season. Told I couldn't and it wasn't needed which has been proven to be the opposite this season from the looks of it.

 

@Sevv09 @MCDONALD l19l

Isn't there something in the rules about only games won by the team being penalized will be under judgement?

If we read Brodie's official statement in post #64, its stating that even a winning opposing team will be forced and at risk of being penalized if the games aren't replayed?

Also, as I stated in my previous post. If any of these games are not replayed and set to a 1-0 or 0-0 final score, all original player stats need to remain (or be added back) as these players are not subject to a penalty because they have not committed any violations.

 

The only games that would be replayed would be games the Gulls won, this apparently took place over a minimum of 2 weeks for the 10 games. Also of note I'm only working with what has been posted here, mind you that if these games don't get played a player could lose their stats for 6 games (if they went 3-0 in both weeks)

 

Ya @lYoungBuck l42l I see that now, to be honest I didn't know that forum existed. Glad to know this is the case.

@Ozzyng2 the way it is written, players will be punished and their old stats removed for something I did. I can't think of much better than to allow GMs to agree to let games stand. Since the exact same players must play (I don't know that this is clearly defined) they will either result in having double stats, or old stats with a new result if the site actually has that functionality.

@Sevv09 a PA could be a strong voice in matters like this where players will be directly involved in the outcome. Is there currently a PA?

 

No.

 

The PA is "not needed" which I've called by on since I came back when the league moved to x1

 

@Sevv09 I honestly thought there was a PA because of this:

 

I mean, obviously ignoring all of section 1.3 as well....

 

The constitution was copied and pasted from the same draft used for the VHL. They probably over looked that subsection.

 

Like @dityboycom said much of this is copied/pasted from the old VHL, with some updates. I guess there was no interest in anyone doing the PA ever since they cut the balls off what it use to be. I tried to bring it back this season to no avail with the staff.

 

Ohh haha. Tiddus made it seem like he and Brodie wrote it together by a fire drinking whiskey with their trophy wives and Great Bernards and it's flawless and "been working great for 5 years."

 

It's for the most part written poorly (however its leaps ahead of how bad it use to be), and chalk full of exploitable loop holes (again however leaps ahead of how bad it use to be).